Black hole has a partiuclar fixed volume

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of black holes, specifically addressing the idea of volume associated with them and the nature of singularities. Participants explore theoretical implications and misunderstandings related to gravitational forces and the mathematical representation of black holes.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that if a black hole has no volume, then the gravitational force between two halves of a black hole would be infinite, suggesting an absurdity in the concept.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that black holes have no volume, stating that while the singularity may have no volume and infinite density, the black hole itself does have volume.
  • A participant acknowledges a misunderstanding of the concept and expresses a desire to learn more about the topic.
  • It is proposed that the singularity may be a mathematical artifact rather than a physically meaningful aspect of reality, indicating a potential limitation in current models of general relativity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the nature of volume in black holes and the interpretation of singularities. There is no consensus on these points, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include differing interpretations of singularities, the dependence on mathematical modeling in general relativity, and the unresolved nature of black hole volume in theoretical discussions.

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for example take two halves of a black hole as m1 and m2. since we told black hole has no volume so we take distance between the two halves as 0. by Newtons laws of gravitation the force of gravitation between the halves is infinite. that is the black hole can shrink the universe to a dimensionless point which is absurd.
 
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Who said a black hole has no volume? That is false. The singularity, if it is a real thing and not simply a mathematical concept, has no volume and infinite density, not the black hole itself.

Shivakumar, this is the 2nd post of yours I've responded to and both have been incorrect. Are you here to learn, or to make incorrect assertions? Please ask questions about something if you want to know more about it.
 
sir i misunderstood the concept that i read. i was thrilled that i found something new:)but actually was wrong.yes i am interested in learning more about science. i would be happy to know more and more from you.
 
The putative 'singularity' at the core of a black hole is widely believed to be a mathematical artifact due to incomplete modeling by general relativity, not a physically meaningful aspect of reality.
 

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