Boltzmann equation for annihilation

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The discussion revolves around the Boltzmann equation for annihilation as presented in Dodelson's textbook. Participants explore the components of the equation, including the integrals, delta functions, and the meaning of various terms, while seeking clarity on their implications for particle abundance and conservation laws.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the origin of the right-hand side of the Boltzmann equation and the roles of variables such as ##p_i## and ##f_i##.
  • Another participant clarifies that ##|M|## represents the amplitude of the annihilation process.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between the right-hand side of the equation and the rate of change in particle abundance, with a focus on production and annihilation rates.
  • Concerns are raised about the role of delta functions in ensuring energy and momentum conservation, with requests for further explanation.
  • Participants discuss the normalization factors, including the presence of ##(2 \pi)^4## and ##\delta^3##, and their implications for the equation.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of ##\delta(0)^3## and its implications for the rate of change, leading to further clarification attempts by others.
  • There is a challenge to the interpretation of the delta function, emphasizing its role within integrals over momenta rather than as a standalone term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit uncertainty regarding the interpretation of certain terms in the equation and the implications of the delta functions. There is no consensus on the full derivation of the equation or the correct interpretation of the delta function's role in the context of the integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of the derivation of the Boltzmann equation and the specific roles of various components, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

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Trying to understand the right hand side of the Boltzmann equation for annihilation for the rate of change in the abundance of a given particle.
In the Dodelson's textbook, the author introduce the Boltzmann equation for annihilation.

##a^{-3} \frac{d(n_1 a)}{dt} = \int \frac{d^3 p_1}{(2 \pi)^3 2E_1} \int \frac{d^3 p_2}{(2 \pi)^3 2E_2} \int \frac{d^3 p_3}{(2 \pi)^3 2E_3} \int \frac{d^3 p_4}{(2 \pi)^3 2E_4} \times (2 \pi)^4 \delta^3 (p_1 + p_2 - p_3 - p_4) \delta (E_1 + E_2 - E_3 - E_4)|M|^2 \times {f_3 f_4[1 \pm f_1] [1 \pm f_2] - f_1 f_2 [1 \pm f_3] [1 \pm f_4]}##

I don't understand the right hand part of the equation. Where all the part comes from? Why ##p_i, f_i## are outside of the integrals? What |M| means? I can't figure out how all the right hand side is related to the rate of change in the abundance of a given particle.

I'm guessing that ##n_i## is the particle density and ##f_i## is the the expected number of particles in an energy state.
 
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happyparticle said:
Why ##p_i, f_i## are outside of the integrals?
They are not.

happyparticle said:
What |M| means?
That would be the amplitude of the annihilation.

happyparticle said:
I can't figure out how all the right hand side is related to the rate of change in the abundance of a given particle.
Rate of change = production - annihilation

The delta functions ensure energy and momentum conservation. The distribution functions implement rates - including fermi blocking etc. The integrals integrate over all possible states. You are missing parentheses around the f terms.
 
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Thank you for the explanation.
However, I'm not sure how exactly the delta functions ensure the energy and moment conservation. Also, I don't see why there is a ##(2 \pi)^4## and ##\delta^3##.

I was looking for a full derivation of this equation. Unfortunately, I can't find any. I'm wondering if I'm using the right name for the equation.
 
The ##\delta^3## is momentum conservation. Try writing out the conditions for the deltas being nob-zero!

The factors of ##2\pi## are for correct normalization.
 
Orodruin said:
The ##\delta^3## is momentum conservation. Try writing out the conditions for the deltas being nob-zero!
Thus, I have ##\delta(0)^3 = \infty## which give a infinite rate of change. I don't understand.
 
happyparticle said:
Thus, I have ##\delta(0)^3 = \infty## which give a infinite rate of change. I don't understand.
This is wrong. Do you know how to evaluate the simple 3D integral ##\intop_{\text{All Space}}d^{3}x\,f\left(\vec{x}\right)\delta^{3}\left(\vec{x}-\vec{x}_{0}\right)##?
 
happyparticle said:
Thus, I have ##\delta(0)^3 = \infty## which give a infinite rate of change. I don't understand.
No you don’t. It is inside several integrals over momenta and essentially ensures that the momenta that you integrate over satisfy momentum and energy conservation
 
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