Book about the History of Electricity

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The discussion centers around the history of electrical discoveries, with a focus on writing a book intended for a general audience. Participants share insights, suggest resources, and discuss notable figures in the field of electricity, including Thales, Faraday, Maxwell, and others.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Kathy introduces her project on the history of electrical discoveries and expresses a desire for assistance with technical issues, particularly regarding radio history.
  • Zz questions Kathy's qualifications for writing about historical figures in electricity, prompting Kathy to clarify her background in physics and engineering.
  • Several participants suggest historical texts and resources that could be beneficial for Kathy's research, including links to old books and specific titles related to electricity and notable figures.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of Thales of Militus in the history of electricity, noting his observations related to electrostatic properties of amber.
  • Another participant discusses the contributions of "the Maxwellians" to the understanding of Maxwell's theories, highlighting the practical problems they addressed.
  • Kathy acknowledges the suggestions and shares her intention to include Thales in her book, while also expressing some confusion about the Greek terminology for amber.
  • Participants mention various books about Marconi and Heaviside, noting their relevance and potential usefulness for Kathy's project.
  • Some participants express their appreciation for the suggested resources and share their own experiences with the recommended readings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the qualifications needed to write about historical figures in science, as some participants argue that personal connections are not necessary, while others imply that such connections could enhance the narrative. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various historical figures and their contributions to the field, but there are no settled definitions or conclusions regarding the interpretations of their work. The discussion includes a mix of personal anecdotes, historical analysis, and resource sharing.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to writers, historians, and enthusiasts of the history of science, particularly those focusing on electricity and its pioneers.

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Hi there,

My name is Kathy and I am writing a book about the history of electrical discoveries. I am writing the book for adults who have limited (or no) science backgrounds with a lot of personal details (like Bose who liked to give electric kisses to attractive women, or Alexander Bell's inspiration from a dead man's ear or…) Anyway, I just found this website and I am super excited to have some help with technical issues (I am a little stuck currently on the history of Radio). I also feel like I could help answer questions on the history of science for others here. So, feel free to ask me about Galvani and Volta or Faraday or what an SOB Morse was. Thanks

Kathy
 
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What is your qualification in writing the history of all these people? Do you know them or people close to them personally?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
What is your qualification in writing the history of all these people? Do you know them or people close to them personally?

Zz.

Basically, I have no qualifications (aside from degrees in Physics and Engineering)! I feel like I am close to some of them after writing about them but as most of them died 100 to 200 years ago I haven't known any personally. Although, I have to say that the death of Faraday so close to the early death of Maxwell really upset me - so that shows you how mentally unbalanced I am :).

ps. for a second I thought signing off as Zz meant that you were falling asleep! Then I got it ZapperZ.
 
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Hi Kathy,

Don't forget to mention Thales of Militus (an ancient Greek mathematician , philosopher and astronomer) he was the first to observe that a substance that is called "electron" in ancient Greek language (not to be confused with the particle electron but it is pronounced the exact same way in the ancient Greek language) (this substance is known as amber in English language) exhibits electrostatic properties when rubbed.

(I am Greek also btw hence my suggestion).
 
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For the history after Maxwell, I liked the book

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0801482348/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Maxwell theory as we teach it today in introductory courses is rather due to the work of "the Maxwellians" than due to Maxwell himself, most importantly by Heaviside! It's also interesting to see that the understanding of Maxwell's treatise was much triggered by practical problems "the Maxwellians" as electrical engineers tried to solve (like the propagation of em. waves along telegraph cables in the salty sea water etc.).

Another remark: I don't think that anyone who writes a biography about someone needs to know the person he describes. That would imply that nobody could write a biography about, e.g., Maxwell today, which is of course not the case.
 
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Delta² said:
Hi Kathy,

Don't forget to mention Thales of Militus (an ancient Greek mathematician , philosopher and astronomer) he was the first to observe that a substance that is called "electron" in ancient Greek language (not to be confused with the particle electron but it is pronounced the exact same way in the ancient Greek language) (this substance is known as amber in English language) exhibits electrostatic properties when rubbed.

(I am Greek also btw hence my suggestion).

You will be happy to know that Thales of Militus is the first section of the first chapter. I also talk about the ancient Greek myth of where Amber comes from. I am not Greek but you can't write about electricity without electrik (Amber)!

Thanks for the suggestion and congratulations on being Greek.

Kathy

ps. I thought Greek for Amber was "electrik" not "electron" am I confused?
 
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For the history after Maxwell, I liked the book

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0801482348/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Maxwell theory as we teach it today in introductory courses is rather due to the work of "the Maxwellians" than due to Maxwell himself, most importantly by Heaviside! It's also interesting to see that the understanding of Maxwell's treatise was much triggered by practical problems "the Maxwellians" as electrical engineers tried to solve (like the propagation of em. waves along telegraph cables in the salty sea water etc.).

Another remark: I don't think that anyone who writes a biography about someone needs to know the person he describes. That would imply that nobody could write a biography about, e.g., Maxwell today, which is of course not the case.

I will look into your link. I feel like poor Oliver Heaviside gets short shift for all of his amazing work. I do mention him but only briefly as my book has more about the experiments then the mathematics. I also like noting that Heaviside was the nephew of Charles Wheatstone who is the "where's Waldo" of my book. Wheatstone invented the English telegraph, was one of three men who said they independently invented using electromagnets in generators, demonstrated a sound machine to a young Alexander Bell that inspired him to build a better one, and chickened out on a Friday speech so that Faraday gave an off the cuff talk about how maybe light was just vibrations of electric and magnetic lines of force. And that is just the stuff that I mention in my book. Whew!

Anyway, I think that Zz was asking if I had some personal connection to the story not saying that one can only write about people you personally know. Just my interpretation.

Thanks again for the link to the book.

Kathy
 
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possibly interesting:
"Franklin and Electrostatics - Ben Franklin as my Lab Partner"
http://www.compadre.org/portal/document/ServeFile.cfm?ID=3427&DocID=82#Doc82

"A history of the theories of aether and electricity : from the age of Descartes to the close of the nineteenth century" Whittaker
https://archive.org/details/historyoftheorie00whitrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mechanical_Universe
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa3Vr7XDSVzZIjdFqlyCyWg

https://www.amazon.com/dp/081352363X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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jasonRF said:
This book about Marconi is interesting
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0007130066/?tag=pfamazon01-20
and I really (really!) love Nahin's book on Heaviside (although I realize you aren't so interested in him...)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0801869099/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Nahin's "the science of radio" also has a fair amount of history in the first 1/3 of the book.

Depending on what type of book you are writing, you may end up using these for their reference lists as much as anything.

jason
I had read the book on Marconi, very good but the others are new to me - thanks
 
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robphy said:
possibly interesting:
"Franklin and Electrostatics - Ben Franklin as my Lab Partner"
http://www.compadre.org/portal/document/ServeFile.cfm?ID=3427&DocID=82#Doc82

"A history of the theories of aether and electricity : from the age of Descartes to the close of the nineteenth century" Whittaker
https://archive.org/details/historyoftheorie00whitrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mechanical_Universe
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa3Vr7XDSVzZIjdFqlyCyWg

https://www.amazon.com/dp/081352363X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

These all look great! I will try to check them out. I loved this book on Franklin called "Stealing God's Thunder" by Philllip Dray
 
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Cool4Kat said:
You will be happy to know that Thales of Militus is the first section of the first chapter. I also talk about the ancient Greek myth of where Amber comes from. I am not Greek but you can't write about electricity without electrik (Amber)!

Thanks for the suggestion and congratulations on being Greek.

Kathy

ps. I thought Greek for Amber was "electrik" not "electron" am I confused?
Nice, can't hide it I have to say I am glad and proud as Greek.

The ancient Greek word for amber is definitely electron not electrik.
 
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You can read Ben Franklin's "Experiments and Observations on Electricity" (published in 1751 from a series of letters to a friend in London) here:

http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/frkelc/index.html

On page 15, in a letter from 1747, he introduces the terms "positive" and "negative" for electric charge.
 
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Delta² said:
Nice, can't hide it I have to say I am glad and proud as Greek.

The ancient Greek word for amber is definitely electron not electrik.

Wow! I don't know why I got it confused (about the Greek word for Amber - not about whether you were proud about being Greek)! Thanks for clearing that up.

Kathy
 
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jtbell said:
You can read Ben Franklin's "Experiments and Observations on Electricity" (published in 1751 from a series of letters to a friend in London) here:

http://www.rarebookroom.org/Control/frkelc/index.html

On page 15, in a letter from 1747, he introduces the terms "positive" and "negative" for electric charge.

Isn't it amazing that you can just read these things for free from your computer! I try my best to read the original works by the original scientists and Franklin's letters were one of my favorites. Maybe because he never meant them as a book or formal paper. For the later years I also liked reading the Nobel Prize speeches by JJ Thompson and the paper about Roentgen.

I have been teaching this stuff for years and it is wild to finally read what the person *themselves* wrote!

Thanks

Kathy
 
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Hey, do any of you lovely people have any suggestions for a book on the history of TV? Thanks, Kathy
 

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