Boost Your Grade: Should You Retake Linear Algebra as a Freshman in College?

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The discussion revolves around whether a freshman in college should retake a Linear Algebra course after receiving a C to BC grade. Participants explore the implications of this decision on future studies in applied mathematics, particularly in relation to graduate school and specific areas of interest such as numerical methods and differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their grade in Linear Algebra, attributing it to adjustment issues in college life and a lack of proficiency in proofs.
  • Another participant suggests that the decision to retake the course depends on the student's future focus in graduate school, particularly whether it will involve more programming or linear algebra problems.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of being comfortable with proofs, stating that they are essential for innovation in applied mathematics.
  • There is a discussion about the comparative difficulty of Ordinary Differential Equations (ODE) versus Linear Algebra, with some participants noting that Linear Algebra is more abstract while ODE may require more computational effort.
  • One participant shares their experience of struggling with ODE exams despite finding Linear Algebra more abstract, citing a lack of deep understanding and poor textbook quality as contributing factors.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of retaking Linear Algebra, with some advocating for it based on future academic goals, while others emphasize the importance of mastering proofs regardless of the course outcome. The discussion on the difficulty of ODE compared to Linear Algebra also reveals varied personal experiences and opinions.

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Participants mention various factors influencing their perspectives, including personal study habits, the quality of instructional materials, and individual learning styles, which may affect the generalizability of their claims.

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Hi,

I just finished my Linear Algebra (A-level) class and I'm ending up with a C to a BC, and am wondering if I should retake it. If this is of any relation, but I got the C because I'm still trying to get adjusted to college life (I'm a freshman.) My intended major is applied mathematics.
 
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selig5560 said:
Hi,

I just finished my Linear Algebra (A-level) class and I'm ending up with a C to a BC, and am wondering if I should retake it. If this is of any relation, but I got the C because I'm still trying to get adjusted to college life (I'm a freshman.) My intended major is applied mathematics.


In applied math you can use ODEs, PDEs, Linear Alg, Programming, and Engineering type applications. I am working on a MS in Applied Math, and at my program, we have more programming and ODEs and PDEs. However, we program MatLab. So Linear Alg isn't presence in many of my classes. However, I can use it (Lin Alg) to solve a problem even though it could be done with another method.

The answer to your question is it depends. Will you be attending grad school in applied math? If so, what will the focus be on? More programming, more DEs, Linear Alg problems, Engineering?

If I was in your shoes, I would probably re-take. If this was a Number Theory class and I know I wasn't going into pure math, I would take the C-BC.
 
Hey thanks for the reply. I do intend to go to graduate school. My main interest is numerical methods. Later on I plan tot ake Numerical Analysis, Numerical Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, etc. Though I was given a C for my grade, I feel that a good portion of the tests were proofs (which I am not good at) and was a contributing factor to my decrepid grade.
 
selig5560 said:
Hey thanks for the reply. I do intend to go to graduate school. My main interest is numerical methods. Later on I plan tot ake Numerical Analysis, Numerical Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, etc. Though I was given a C for my grade, I feel that a good portion of the tests were proofs (which I am not good at) and was a contributing factor to my decrepid grade.

Get better at them. Proofs are what mathematics is all about.
Even if you go into a purely applied area of mathematics, you won't be able to do anything novel or innovative (read: your job) without being comfortable with proofs. A good course in abstract algebra will cure what ails you.
 
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Thanks again for the info. I do plan to get better with proofs, even though they are tough, I do find them interesting. Btw how difficult is ODE compared to LA?
 
selig5560 said:
Thanks again for the info. I do plan to get better with proofs, even though they are tough, I do find them interesting. Btw how difficult is ODE compared to LA?

Hard to say. Intro. linear algebra tends to be more dense and abstract than introductory ODE's, but is computationally and technically much simpler once you wrap your head around the theory; ODE, on the other hand, will offer you next to no theory or abstraction, and will consist mostly of a long list of different kinds of equations and associated techniques required to solve them. It's mostly a "cookbook" course.

It would be worthwhile, I think, to pick up a book like Arnold's Ordinary Differential Equations to read alongside the course text if you take ODE's. It's probably a bit too challenging to study on your own at this point, but it will place a lot of what you're learning in a larger context and give you a lot of the theory that the course itself will almost certainly ignore. Eventually, you'll want to work through the book in its entirety.
 
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Hey, thanks for all the feedback, really appreciate it. That book looks pretty dense. (ok, I'm a freshman lol)
 
selig5560 said:
Hey, thanks for all the feedback, really appreciate it. That book looks pretty dense. (ok, I'm a freshman lol)

No need to work through through it right now, but it's something you'll definitely want to work towards (even if you're studying applied mathematics). If your school has an "introduction to proofs" or "introduction to higher mathematics" course, I strongly recommend taking it as soon as possible; it will help you become comfortable with the kind of abstraction you encounter in courses like LA.
 
selig5560 said:
how difficult is ODE compared to LA?

I found Linear Algebra to be more abstract and more difficult in that sense, but I had more trouble with the exams in ODE. I studied for 10 hours for one exam in ODE, which was an absurd amount compared to how much I normally study. I think one reason it was so confusing to me was that I could push through the algorithms if I had the book in front of me, but I didn't really have a deep understanding of how or why anything actually worked. Part of it was also that our professor was new and our textbook was terrible. (If someone tries to use Borelli and Coleman on you, RUN THE OTHER WAY. Or buy a better book to supplement with.)
 

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