Brain Drain, summer jobs, advice

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of finding summer employment and preparing for college, particularly in the context of feelings of inadequacy regarding academic preparedness. Participants explore options for summer activities, including volunteering and research opportunities, while expressing concerns about falling behind peers academically.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses anxiety about not securing a summer job and the implications for their academic preparedness, particularly in relation to peers who have taken advanced courses.
  • Some participants suggest volunteering as a valuable alternative to paid work, emphasizing the development of people skills that could benefit future job prospects.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of volunteering experiences, with one participant sharing a negative past experience that did not align with their expectations of meaningful engagement.
  • A later reply mentions an internship opportunity that may provide relevant experience, although it is unclear how this will unfold.
  • There is a discussion about the pressure of comparing academic progress with peers, with one participant advocating for a more personal approach to education rather than a competitive mindset.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of volunteering and improving interpersonal skills, but there is no consensus on the best approach to summer activities or the importance of comparing academic progress with peers.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of concern about academic preparedness and the pressure to keep up with peers, highlighting the subjective nature of educational experiences and the potential for different paths to success.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals preparing for college, those seeking summer employment or volunteer opportunities, and students concerned about academic readiness may find this discussion relevant.

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"Brain Drain," summer jobs, advice

Hi everyone. School is coming to a close, and I'll be graduating from HS next month. I thought that I should make a little post about my summer plans.

I will be attending college this August, and I will be moving out from home (definitely a new experience for me, but given that my family is not in the best situation economically, it may be best to leave the terrible environment). Of course, college is expensive, but I am glad that I will not get in debt because of tuition costs.

I originally planned to find a summer job, but after the anxiety from college admissions and school work, I started my search very late. Suffice to say, I do not have anything planned. I applied to about 13 jobs, and received one offer, which I could not accept (they wanted me to work until Aug. 31st, but schools starts Aug. 17th). Quite an enlightening experience with the job application process.

I was invited back to my professor's laboratory to do research in a civil-engineering based field. I am definitely interested in the research, as it is one of my potential majors (other possibilities are AEP and MechE), but there is no money involved. I like it more than the potential jobs (e.g. tour guide at a museum, summer camp counselor), but alas, money is pretty important. I suppose that since I really do not have many options the laboratory is not a bad thing to do. It is kind of unfortunate that I could not find a summer job. Perhaps someone knows where I can look.

My parents say that it is not a big deal if I can't find a job. My friends say that I should "take the summer off," since the break is so short anyway (a month and a half). But I am afraid of falling behind from my peers, academically. (hence, "brain drain.")

Many of my classmates in HS have already taken Multivariable Calculus, and Linear Algebra, among other classes. I have not. I know that many people at College will have already taken these classes. Besides, it is nice to learn these things anyway, and they should not be so difficult.

Does anyone know any good books for learning multi and linear algebra? Are there any other topics that I should learn to prepare for the engineering curriculum?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Why don't you volunteer somewhere? It is very late to find a job now, why not hone in on those people skills? You'd be surprised how much it helps out for landing internships and jobs later on if you have good skills working with others. Besides it beats sitting on the internet all day with nothing to do.
 


Hi. This is very good advice! It is always good to improve people-skills.

I think some places are always looking for volunteers. However, I will have to be careful as to what I will be doing. I volunteered somewhere once, and they had me holding doors/standing in front of doors and greeting people. And making hundreds of phone calls (with a phone script). Not my idea of volunteering my time.

My professor did get back to me regarding an internship, so that may be fruitful.
 


Scintillation said:
Hi. This is very good advice! It is always good to improve people-skills.

I think some places are always looking for volunteers. However, I will have to be careful as to what I will be doing. I volunteered somewhere once, and they had me holding doors/standing in front of doors and greeting people. And making hundreds of phone calls (with a phone script). Not my idea of volunteering my time.

My professor did get back to me regarding an internship, so that may be fruitful.

Volunteering is a great idea. Let me know how things pan out for you!

I also think that the "who's done what before who" game is a stupid one to play. You'll always lose. Now, some people like to lose... (maybe)

You'll always find people who've taken a course or two before you or people who at your age, had a few degrees more. Heck, Terry Tao got his PhD before turning 22. As did Noam Elkies. (20-21, I think) There's also people who're starting much later than you. Educating yourself need not be a race. It'll only make things more painful than they have to be. Instead, maybe thinking of it as a marathon would be a good idea. It's hard but you should also try finding a suitable pace for you.

That's what I'm doing now and it takes a while...
 

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