Building a Quantum Levitation device

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of a quantum levitation device, exploring the necessary equipment, safety considerations, and underlying principles of superconductivity. Participants share insights on materials, techniques, and safety precautions related to using high-temperature superconductors (HTSC) and liquid nitrogen.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Safety-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that building a quantum levitation device requires an oven capable of reaching 1,000°C to prepare the HTSC.
  • Others mention that HTSC can be purchased, which may simplify the process.
  • It is noted that HTSCs must be cooled with liquid nitrogen to below their critical temperature to achieve superconductivity and the associated levitation effects.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the term "quantum levitation," arguing it is misleading and akin to calling a laser a "quantum laser."
  • Safety concerns regarding the handling of liquid nitrogen are emphasized, with multiple participants providing warnings about its hazards.
  • There is a mention of the Leidenfrost effect, with some participants discussing its implications for safety when handling liquid nitrogen.
  • One participant suggests that the term "Quantum Levitation" should be avoided to reduce sensationalism in discussions about the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the terminology used in the discussion, particularly regarding "quantum levitation." While there is agreement on the safety concerns related to liquid nitrogen, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of the term and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for caution when working with hazardous materials like liquid nitrogen and the importance of understanding the underlying physics of superconductivity. There are unresolved questions about the best practices for constructing a levitation device and the terminology used to describe the phenomenon.

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I'm confident that most of us have seen the advancements in quantum levitation recently, and this has aroused questions among the geek community ( us : ) )
Anyway, if I were to, hypothetically, want to build one... How do I- *cough*- one do such a thing. What equipment and supplies are in play with the fascinating device?
 
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If you want to make it completely from scratch, you'll need an oven that goes to about 1,000°C and can maintain that temperature for some time. This is needed to "bake" the high temperature superconductor that makes levitation possible.

Alternatively, there are places you can buy an HTSC. They aren't particularly expensive.

The next serious barrier is that even the "high temperature" SCs operate at very low temperatures. The only practical way to get these temperatures is with liquid nitrogen.

The rest is straight forward. You use the liquid nitrogen to cool the HTSC plate to bellow the critical temperature, and it becomes a type II superconductor. The cool thing about that is taht it can lock magnetic fields in place, allowing for leviation. (I don't know why they are calling it quantum levitation. It's a silly name. Yes, superconductivity is a quantum effect, but it's a bit like saying "quantum laser." They're all quantum.)

Anyways, there are some techniques on getting this to work with a very thin plate of HTSC, which allows for better lockign of the magnetic field, and the main reason we got all these videos floating about. But for basic effect, you just need HTSC, liquid nitrogen, and some magnets.

If you do manage to get liquid nitrogen, keep in mind that it's a very hazardous substance to work with. I would strongly recommend getting someone who knows what they are doing to actually handle it.
 
Liquid nitrogen safety sprint:
don't put your hands in it. Not even for a second.
Point it away from you when you turn it on.
Sometimes gloves are more dangerous than bare hands! Just be wise.
Nitrogen, in large quantities, can displace the oxygen that you like using to live. Prop a window.
Dewars are pressure bombs. And they're heavy. Don't push them, pull them.

Making a levitating train is a fun exercise. Google something like "levitating superconductor theory" to get material specs.

Making a full scale train is a serious challenge.
 
Oh... I see.
 
AJKing said:
Liquid nitrogen safety sprint:
don't put your hands in it. Not even for a second.

Actually, the leidenfrost effect means that you can put your hand in liquid nitrogen, just for a second :). The rapid boiling insulates your hand in a layer of gas.
 
We should all just agree to never use the term "Quantum Levitation" and stop contributing to sensationalism and a bunch of Israelis attempt at self-promotion.
 
BOAS said:
Actually, the leidenfrost effect means that you can put your hand in liquid nitrogen, just for a second :). The rapid boiling insulates your hand in a layer of gas.
That is true. And I'm guilty of having tried that. But it's still really dangerous and stupid.
 
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BOAS said:
leidenfrost

And, if you're quick, you can also roll under a moving train between its wheels.

Leidenfrost will save you when you spill a bit on your hands. Doing anything else is not safe.
 
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AJKing said:
And, if you're quick, you can also roll under a moving train between its wheels.

Leidenfrost will save you when you spill a bit on your hands. Doing anything else is not safe.

As always, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

 
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