Bungee Jumping Physics: Hooke's Law & Potential Energy

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Homework Statement


A daredevil plans to bungee jump from a balloon 59.0 m above the ground. He will use a uniform elastic cord, tied to a harness around his body, to stop his fall at a point 13.0 m above the ground. Model his body as a particle and the cord as having negligible mass and obeying Hooke's law. In a preliminary test he finds that when hanging at rest from a 5.00-m length of the cord, his body weight stretches it by 1.65 m. He will drop from rest at the point where the top end of a longer section of the cord is attached to the stationary balloon.

Homework Equations


Hookes Law = 1/2 kx^2
Potential Energy = mgx

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so for starters I said when he falls out of the balloon he falls a distance x at which he is now not falling.
x = 59-13 = 46
Then I set out to find k for Hookes law. I said mg = ky where y is the 1.65 m. So
k = (mg)/y
I then said r is the actual length of the chord, and L is the length that the chord stretches. So
r + L = x
I then said the total potential energy of the devil is mgx, and the amount of work in opposition to him by the chord is 1/2KL^2 = 1/2 * (mgL^2)/y
I set this equal to mgx: 1/2 * (mgL^2)/y = mgx
= (L^2)/(2y) = x
= L = sqrt(2yx)
solving for L and subtracting it from x to get r (the actual length of the chord) I get 37.3 m. Which apparently is wrong. What am I missing? Thanks in advance
 
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k=mg/y Is the spring constant of an 5 m long chord. What is K for an L m long chord of the same kind?

Also, the potential energy of a stretched spring depends on the change of length (r) instead of the unstretched length (L) as you wrote.

ehild
 
Hi and thank you for responding
I did set L as the change of length and r as the unstretched length.

Also I just assumed K = mg/y. Does K change because of length?
 
Lol no I suppose not. Ok so K =mg/(stretched length) for a cord. I will try it with this.
 
Ok so I put K = mg/L instead of mg/y for the chord, and I get L=2x which is obviously incorrect. I'm lost on what to do now...
 
Abid Rizvi said:
Ok so I put K = mg/L instead of mg/y for the chord, and I get L=2x which is obviously incorrect. I'm lost on what to do now...
No, it is still the case that for a given piece of elastic K = mg/(length of stretch). Your problem is how to convert the K for one length of material to the K for a greater length. It's the innate property of the material that's constant. If a given load stretches a rope length L by x, by how much would it stretch a rope of twice the length?
 
So k=mg/1.65 for the 5 m long chord. Assuming it is r m long, what is the spring constant?

Think: 5 m chord stretches 1.65 m. You bind two 5 m chords together. How much does that 10 m chord stretch?
If the chord is r m long, how much does it stretch by the weight of the man?

ehild
 
YES! I got it. Okay so from what I understood, if a 5 m chord stretches 1.65 m, a 10 m chord should stretch 3.3 m (=1.65*2). So to do the conversion I need to find the factor to multiply by and that factor is given by f = (r/5) where 5 is the length of the small cord. So mg/fy = K. Putting that back into the original stuff, I get 2.5L^2 = yx(x-L), and therefore L = 25.156 m. So to find the length of the cord r, x- l = r which is about 20.8 which the website accepts as correct. Thank you!