Caffeine Soap; does it really work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the efficacy of caffeine soap, particularly whether it can effectively deliver caffeine through the skin compared to traditional consumption methods like drinking coffee. Participants explore various aspects of dermal absorption and personal anecdotes related to the use of caffeine soap.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant cites a claim from United Nuclear that caffeine is absorbed faster through the skin than through ingestion, referencing dermal absorption factors from a CDC site.
  • Factors affecting dermal absorption mentioned include concentration of the chemical on the skin, duration of exposure, and surface area of skin exposed.
  • Another participant humorously reflects on the practicality of using caffeine soap and questions how long one would need to lather before rinsing off.
  • Concerns are raised about the actual amount of caffeine absorbed from the soap compared to traditional sources like coffee, with one participant expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of caffeine soap.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about gifting caffeine soap and plans to inquire about its effects.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that eating the soap might enhance its effects.
  • A later reply indicates that a participant's mother felt little to no effect from using the caffeine soap.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the effectiveness of caffeine soap, with no consensus reached on its efficacy or the amount of caffeine absorbed through the skin.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include the lack of empirical evidence regarding the actual absorption rates of caffeine from soap and the variability in individual experiences with the product.

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Evening all,

I've been curious about these caffeine soaps lately and thought that this would be the place to discuss about it.

My almost-favorite website United Nuclear claims:


"As it turns out, our good old friend Caffeine
reaches the bloodstream faster through skin absorption
than ingesting caffeinated beverages such as coffee or energy drinks."

Soap: http://unitednuclear.com/index.php? main_page=product_info&cPath=29_54&products_id=447
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So I browsed for chemical exposure websites and got this CDC site: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/skin/

"Dermal Absorption

Dermal absorption is the transport of a chemical from the
outer surface of the skin both into the skin and into the body.
Studies show that absorption of chemicals through the skin can
occur without being noticed by the worker, and in some cases,
may represent the most significant exposure pathway. Many
commonly used chemicals in the workplace could potentially
result in systemic toxicity if they penetrate through the skin
(i.e. pesticides, organic solvents). These chemicals enter the
blood stream and cause health problems away from the site of entry.

The rate of dermal absorption depends largely on the outer layer of the
skin called the stratum corneum (SC). The SC serves an important barrier
function by keeping molecules from passing into and out of the skin, thus
protecting the lower layers of skin. The extent of absorption is dependent
the following factors:

Skin integrity (damaged vs. intact)

Location of exposure (thickness and water content of stratum corneum; skin temperature)

Physical and chemical properties of the hazardous substance

Concentration of a chemical on the skin surface

Duration of exposure

The surface area of skin exposed to a hazardous substance"


The last three are immediately relevant (though others are quite significant).
1. "Concentration of a chemical on the skin surface"
Shower water and initial soap concentrations are limiting factors.

2. "Duration of exposure"
Leaving it on for 1 minute versus 15 minutes would make quite a difference.

3. "The surface area of skin exposed to a hazardous substance"
Well, caffeine isn't exactly monomethylhydrazine, but an increased applied area of soap definitely would increase the total amount absorbed.


All three are no-brainer statements of course but definitely a decent place to start.
Think-Geek has a similar soap that are 4 ounce bars with
200 milligrams of Caffeine each. Comparing it to caffiene data (mg) from coffeefaq.com:

7oz coffee:
Drip 115-175mg
Brewed 80-135mg
Instant 65-100mg

It seems like coffee has no chance versus caffeine soaps,
but nevertheless I believe the actual amount of caffeine from the soap
absorbed by the body is substantially lower. (That's my personal hunch, anyways.)


It should be interesting to see what others have to say.



Cheers,



Nikos
 
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Ha, I actually bought my mother some caffeine soap as sort of a joke gift a few years back. I'll have to ask her if it worked!
 
I wonder how long I would have to stand there all lathered up before I could; rinse off, dry off, get dressed, and go make a pot of coffee.:smile:
 
Even if caffeine does get absorbed into the body through the skin, I doubt you use all 4 ounces of the bar of soap each time you bathe. I know it takes me a while to get through 1 bar of soap, not 1 or 2 times in the tub.
 
But if one eats the remaining soap -- as a snack -- before one leaves the tub, that might do the trick.
 
I asked my mom and she said she couldn't feel much effect if any.
 

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