Calculate 5Σ r=0 r(r+1): Find the Sum!

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The discussion revolves around calculating the sum of the series 5Σ r=0 r(r+1), which involves terms that grow quadratically. Participants are exploring how to approach this summation given the changing common difference.

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  • Some participants suggest writing out the terms explicitly to sum them, while others question the appropriateness of using calculus-based methods in a precalculus context. There is also mention of the "method of differences" as a potential approach.

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Participants are actively discussing various methods to tackle the summation, with some offering different perspectives on the suitability of certain approaches based on the original poster's level. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is an acknowledgment that the problem was posted in the precalculus section, which raises questions about the appropriateness of advanced techniques like calculus for the original poster's understanding.

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Calculate 5 \Sigma r=0 r(r+1)
(Sorry I don't know how to do the proper notation online)

How do you calculate the sum for this since the common difference is changing?
I tried to write them out separately so the sum of r x sum of r+1 but I don't know how you put that in the sum formula.

Sn = n/2[2a + (n-1)d]
Sn = n/2[a + L]
 
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Hi Nubcake,
Given terms that grow like r2, how fast do you think the sum will grow?
 
Nubcake said:
Calculate 5 \Sigma r=0 r(r+1)
(Sorry I don't know how to do the proper notation online)
I don't know what you're asking.
Nubcake said:
How do you calculate the sum for this since the common difference is changing?
I tried to write them out separately so the sum of r x sum of r+1 but I don't know how you put that in the sum formula.

Sn = n/2[2a + (n-1)d]
Sn = n/2[a + L]
 
Nubcake said:
Calculate 5 \Sigma r=0 r(r+1)
(Sorry I don't know how to do the proper notation online)
Do you mean \displaystyle \sum_{r=0}^{5}r(r+1)\ ?
 
Nubcake said:
Calculate 5 \Sigma r=0 r(r+1)
(Sorry I don't know how to do the proper notation online)

How do you calculate the sum for this since the common difference is changing?
I tried to write them out separately so the sum of r x sum of r+1 but I don't know how you put that in the sum formula.

Sn = n/2[2a + (n-1)d]
Sn = n/2[a + L]

Assuming you meant the sum as SammyS wrote it, there are at least a couple of ways to do it.

The most elementary way, but one that involves making a non-trivial observation, is to use what's called the "method of differences". Observe that (r+1)^3 - r^3 = 3r(r+1) + 1 What happens if you write out the sum of the left hand side? What terms cancel?

The less elementary way, but one that's easier to see if you know just a little calculus, is to let f(x) = x^{r+1}. Now differentiate twice, and work out the value at x = 1, i.e. calculate f''(1). What do you notice?
 
Curious3141 said:
The less elementary way, but one that's easier to see if you know just a little calculus, is to let f(x) = x^{r+1}. Now differentiate twice, and work out the value at x = 1, i.e. calculate f''(1). What do you notice?
Given that this was posted in the Precalc section, a solution involving calculus might not be applicable here.
 
The most obvious way to do \sum_{r=0}^5 r(r+1) is to write out all six terms and sum them: 0(0+1)+ 1(1+1)+ 2(2+1)+ 3(3+1)+ 4(4+1)+ 5(5+ 1)= 0+ 2+ 6+ 12+ 20+ 30= 70.
 
Mark44 said:
Given that this was posted in the Precalc section, a solution involving calculus might not be applicable here.

That does not mean the OP has no knowledge of it. Besides, it's better to suggest alternative solutions, especially if they're more direct and easier to see. The OP is free to disregard this solution if he so wishes.
 
Mark44 said:
Given that this was posted in the Precalc section, a solution involving calculus might not be applicable here.

Curious3141 said:
That does not mean the OP has no knowledge of it. Besides, it's better to suggest alternative solutions, especially if they're more direct and easier to see. The OP is free to disregard this solution if he so wishes.
I realize that problems are posted to the wrong sections all the time, and that is why I qualified what I said. On the other hand, the OP did post this in the precalc section, so I take that as a clue to the OP's current abilities. A calculus approach might seem more direct and easier to those of us with more knowledge, but would probably be completely mystifying to someone who isn't ready for such an approach yet.
 
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Mark44 said:
I realize that problems are posted to the wrong sections all the time, and that is why I qualified what I said. On the other hand, the OP did post this in the precalc section, so I take that as a clue to the OP's current abilities. A calculus approach might seem more direct and easier to those of us with more knowledge, but would probably be completely mystifying to someone who isn't ready for such an approach yet.

I think it's pointless to keep going on about this. It's really for the OP to reply, choose a method and show more work.
 

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