Calculate Angle of Deflection for Curling Stone Collision

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The problem involves a curling stone that collides with another stone after traveling a certain distance. The scenario includes calculating the angle of deflection for the first stone post-collision, given the deflection angle and speed of the second stone. The context is rooted in momentum conservation principles.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the momentum conservation into x and y components. There is an exploration of assumptions regarding mass and directionality of the stones' motion. Questions arise about the correct application of trigonometric functions for the components.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the setup of equations. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the reference direction for angles, and guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions in the context of the problem.

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There is an assumption that the masses of the stones are equal, which simplifies the momentum equations. The discussion also notes the omission of friction effects, which may influence the outcome.

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Homework Statement



A curling stone thrown takes 4.8 s to travel 60 m. The stone collides with another stone. The collision is a glancing one. If the second stone is deflected 25° and travels 1.5 m/s, calculate the angle of deflection of the first stone after collision. Omit any effects due to friction.

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ρbefore = ρafter

The Attempt at a Solution



I looked at splitting it up into the x and y directions, but couldn't get anywhere. I looked in the answer key, and its 3.3 degrees, but I have no idea how to get there. Thanks!
 
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Hello, monkeygrif. Welcome to Physics Forums.

You have the right idea of setting up x and y components of momentum conservation.

Can you show more detail of your attempt?
 
Thanks!

x dir:

0 = mass(a)v2(a) + m(b)v2(b)

because of the wording of the question, i made the assumption that they had the same masses, and thus the masses were irrelevant, so:

0 = v2(a) + v2(b)

0 = v2(a)cosx - 1.5cos25

v2(a)cosx = 1.5cos25

y-dir:

same setup here, which ends up with:

v1(a) = v2(a) + v2(b)
12.5 = v2(a)sinx + 1.5sin25
v2(a)sinx = 11.87

from there i used the tangent ratio, tanx = opposite/adjacent, which gave me the x value of 83.4 degrees
 
OK. Looks pretty good. But note that you are taking the initial direction of motion of the first stone to be in the y-direction. That's fine. But then that means the deflection angles are measured with respect to the y-axis (not the x-axis). So, you'll need to think about whether you should use cosine or sine to get x-components. Similarly for y-components.
 
Thanks so much! Its all worked out now. :)
 

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