Calculate Apparent & Actual Resistances of Unknown Resistor

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the calculation of apparent and actual resistances of an unknown resistor using a voltmeter and a milliammeter. Participants explore the interpretation of the problem's wording and the implications for solving it, focusing on the configuration of the circuit and the role of the instruments involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculations for the apparent and actual resistance of the unknown resistor, using the voltmeter and milliammeter readings.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the problem, suggesting that the description may imply a different circuit configuration than intended.
  • Some participants propose that the voltmeter is in parallel with the unknown resistor, while the milliammeter is in series, affecting how the voltages and currents are measured.
  • There is a discussion about whether the internal resistance of the milliammeter should be considered in the calculations, with some uncertainty expressed about its impact on the measurements.
  • Participants highlight the potential for misinterpretation of the assignment question, emphasizing the need for clear problem statements in educational contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the problem's wording and its implications for the circuit configuration. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, and multiple competing views remain regarding the intended setup and the role of the instruments.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks clarity regarding the internal resistance of the milliammeter and how it should be incorporated into the calculations. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the intended arrangement of the circuit components.

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Hi there, this is one of the question of my assignment.


A voltmeter with a sensitivity of 1000 Ω/V has a full scale deflection of 150V. When connected across an unknown resistor in series with a milliammeter, it reads 100V. If the milliammeter reads 50mA, calculate the following:

a. The apparent resistance of the unknown resistor.
b. The actual resistance of the unknown resistor.

My attempt.

a. The apparent resistance of the unknown resistor. (2 marks)

V=IRa

100=50 X 10-3 ×Ra

Ra=100/(50 ×10-3 )

=2000Ω


b. The actual resistance of the unknown resistor. (4 marks)

〖Resistance at 100V range,R〗v=100×1000

=100kΩ

V=IR
V=I((Rv Rb)/(Rv+Rb ))

100=50 ×10-3 ((100 ×103×Rb)/(100 ×103+Rb ))

100/(50 ×10-3 )=(100 ×103 Rb)/(100 ×103+Rb )

200 ×106+2000Rb=100×103 Rb

200 ×106=98 ×103Rb

Rb=2.041kΩ

is this the correct way to solve the problem?
 
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Stefenng said:
A voltmeter with a sensitivity of 1000 Ω/V has a full scale deflection of 150V.

°°°

〖Resistance at 100V range,R〗v=100×1000

=100kΩ
Meter is on the 150V FSD range.
 
Stefenng said:
is this the correct way to solve the problem?
It is most likely what your teacher intended.

That said, I would give your teacher only half marks for his question (assuming you have quoted the assignment verbatim).
teacher said:
When connected across an unknown resistor in series with a milliammeter, it reads 100V.
My interpretation of that description is of a milliammeter in series with a resistor, and the voltmeter connected across that combination of meter + resistor such that the voltmeter measures the sum of two voltages VA + VR. This does not make for such an interesting question, but were I marking the assignment I would have to give full marks for that interpretation.

It's a case of answering the question that your teacher asked, versus answering the question that you teacher meant to ask. Well-crafted assignments should not be a mind-reading exercise.
 
My interpretation of that description is of a milliammeter in series with a resistor, and the voltmeter connected across that combination of meter + resistor such that the voltmeter measures the sum of two voltages VA + VR. [/QUOTE]

I don't really get what you mean here. Did u mean that I should include the internal resistance of the milliammeter?
 
Stefenng said:
I don't really get what you mean here. Did u mean that I should include the internal resistance of the milliammeter?
If it were known, since that resistance contributes to the voltage that is measured.
 
Based on the given information, it seems that the intended configuration is: the voltmeter is in parallel with the unknown resistor, and the ammeter is in series with that parallel combination.

This way we know the actual voltage, but not the actual current, for the resistor; we are really measuring the sum of the resistor and voltmeter currents. But we can figure out what the voltmeter current is and calculate the actual resistor current.

The way the problem is worded -- "an unknown resistor in series with a milliammeter" -- means we know the actual current through the resistor, but not the actual voltage, because the voltmeter is measuring the sum of the resistor and milliammeter voltages. We would have to know the milliammeter's resistance (and then calculate its voltage) in order to solve the problem. Because we do not know its resistance, this shouldn't be what your teacher intended.

If your teacher goes over this problem in class, make sure that he/she draws a circuit showing the intended arrangement of resistor, voltmeter, and milliammeter.
 

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