Calculate Final Temp of Water After Ice Melts: Help Requested

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of water after an ice cube melts in it. The problem involves an ice cube of 75 g being dropped into 330 g of water at an initial temperature of 22 °C, with the ice starting at 0 °C. Participants are tasked with considering energy transfers and heat exchanges without any heat loss to the surroundings.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the energy required to melt the ice and the energy needed to heat the melted ice water. They explore how to calculate the energy removed from the warm water as its temperature decreases. There are questions about the correct application of formulas for heat transfer and energy balance.

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Some participants express understanding of the energy calculations involved, while others seek clarification on specific steps. Hints have been provided regarding setting up an energy equation to relate the heat added to the ice and the heat removed from the warm water, but no consensus on a final solution has been reached.

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Participants are working under the assumption that there is no heat loss to the glass or the environment, which is a critical factor in their calculations. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct application of specific heat capacities and latent heat in their equations.

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PLEASE HELP ME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION I AM STUCK

An ice cube of 75 g is drop into a glass containing 330 g of water at a temperature of 22 ' Celsius. The ice is at 0 ' Celsius and melts so that the temperature of the water decreases.

Calculate the final temperature of the water when all the ice has melted. Assume that no heat lost to the glass or the surrounding.

Specific latent heat of fusion of ice = 3.3 x 10^5 J/kg

specific heat capacity of water = -4.2 x 10^3 J/kg K

Please help me i don't really know help to proceed
 
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Call the final temperature X.

How much energy is required to melt the ice?

How much energy is required to heat the melted ice water from 0 degrees to X?

How much energy must be removed from the warm water to bring it down from 22 degrees to the final temperature?
 
Doc Al said:
Call the final temperature X.

How much energy is required to melt the ice?

How much energy is required to heat the melted ice water from 0 degrees to X?

How much energy must be removed from the warm water to bring it down from 22 degrees to the final temperature?

Energy to melt ice to water at 0 ' Celsius = q = m lf



Energy to melt ice to water from 0 to X using q = mcQ
0.075 x -4.2 x 10^3 x( X - 0) The last part i cannot understand..please check whether i am on the right track, please explain to me a bit more in detail
 
Yes, you're on the right track. Hint: The energy you must add to the ice to melt it and then heat it up must equal the energy removed from the warm water.

You'll set up an energy equation and then solve for X.
 
Doc Al said:
Yes, you're on the right track. Hint: The energy you must add to the ice to melt it and then heat it up must equal the energy removed from the warm water.

You'll set up an energy equation and then solve for X.

"""...How much energy must be removed from the warm water to bring it down from 22 degrees to the final temperature?..."""

How should i calculate the energy that must be removed from the warm water to bring it from 22 to X

should i use q = mcQ
0.33 x -4.2 x 10^3 x ( 22 - Q )

by the way the upper part i understand.
 
jinx007 said:
How should i calculate the energy that must be removed from the warm water to bring it from 22 to X

should i use q = mcQ
0.33 x -4.2 x 10^3 x ( 22 - Q )
The equation you want is the same one that you used to find the heat you need to add to warm the ice water:

Q = mcΔT = mc(22 - X)
 
Doc Al said:
The equation you want is the same one that you used to find the heat you need to add to warm the ice water:

Q = mcΔT = mc(22 - X)


So if i round up all what i understand the answer should be like that:

m lf + 0.075 x -4.2x10^3 x (x-0) = 0.33 x -4.2 x 10^3 (22-x)

when i solve i will have the value of X that is the temperature
 
jinx007 said:
So if i round up all what i understand the answer should be like that:

m lf + 0.075 x -4.2x10^3 x (x-0) = 0.33 x -4.2 x 10^3 (22-x)

when i solve i will have the value of X that is the temperature
Looks good. (But get rid of the minus sign in front of the specific heat.) Don't forget to plug in the values for m and lf.
 

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