Calculate Mass of Butane & CO2 for 1.5x10^3 kJ Heat

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of butane required to produce a specific amount of heat (1.5 x 10^3 kJ) and the corresponding mass of carbon dioxide (CO2) produced in the reaction. The scope includes stoichiometry, exothermic reactions, and the application of chemical equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the reaction is exothermic and that the heat of reaction is necessary for stoichiometric calculations.
  • One participant calculates that 33 grams of butane is needed to produce 1.5 x 10^3 kJ of energy, using the heat of reaction of -2658 kJ.
  • Another participant points out that 176 grams of CO2 is produced from 1 mole of butane, but questions whether 33 grams of butane corresponds to 1 mole.
  • There is a calculation presented that converts grams of butane to moles and then calculates the mass of CO2 produced based on that conversion.
  • Some participants express confusion about the source of the 176 grams of CO2 and its relevance to the specific mass of butane used.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of attempting to solve problems independently to improve problem-solving skills.

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Participants express differing views on the calculations and the relevance of certain values, particularly regarding the mass of CO2 produced from the given mass of butane. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on how to approach the problem.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the stoichiometric relationships and the specific amounts of reactants and products. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of the problem.

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1. What mass of butane in grams is necessary to produce 1.5 x 10^3 kJ of heat? What mass of CO2 is produced?

C4H10 + 13/2 O2 --> 4 CO2 + 5 H2O
Heat of reaction = -2658 kJ



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3. Mass of butane = 33g

Mass of CO2 = 176.04g <-- This is wrong and the right answer is 99g CO2





How is that so.. :o
 
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I think the reaction is exothermic. What it gives you is the overall delta H. In order to find what amount of butane is necessary to produce 1.5x10^3 kJ of energy(exothermic since its being released) is just a stochiometry problem. Here is a start.

-1.5x10^3 kJ(58.12g/-2658 kJ)=33 grams of Butane.

Now figure out how much CO2 is released.
 


halo31 said:
I think the reaction is exothermic. What it gives you is the overall delta H. In order to find what amount of butane is necessary to produce 1.5x10^3 kJ of energy(exothermic since its being released) is just a stochiometry problem. Here is a start.

-1.5x10^3 kJ(58.12g/-2658 kJ)=33 grams of Butane.

Now figure out how much CO2 is released.

Thanks for answering... but why would you even need to know that to figure out how much CO2 was produced? Isn't it right there
 


176 g of CO2 is produced from 1 mole of butane. 33 g of butane is not 1 mole.
 


Borek said:
176 g of CO2 is produced from 1 mole of butane. 33 g of butane is not 1 mole.

Oh right! How would I solve it then?
 


33 / 58.12 = 0.567
176 x 0.567 = 99.7
 


FLgirl said:
Oh right! How would I solve it then?

Best approach is to try first, ask questions later.

FLgirl said:
33 / 58.12 = 0.567
176 x 0.567 = 99.7

Wasn't that hard.
 


Borek said:
Best approach is to try first, ask questions later.



Wasn't that hard.

Not really but if people were more inclined to solve the problem as an example, it would make learning go a lot quicker.
 


FLgirl said:
Not really but if people were more inclined to solve the problem as an example, it would make learning go a lot quicker.

Actually - not. The more problems you try to solve by yourself, the better your general solving skills will be. Otherwise you will learn how to deal with hundreds of known problems, but you will be still helplessly lost whenever facing a new one.

Unfortunately that's the way schools work these days - they teach how to reproduce the solution, not how to solve the problem.

If some of us know to solve the problem at first sight it is not because we did similar problem in the past, but because we know how to approach every problem. Believe it or not, but filling our template is a first step.
 
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You are so knowledged. Tell me more tips to get good at chemistry.
 
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How did you get 176g of CO?

Borek said:
176 g of CO2 is produced from 1 mole of butane. 33 g of butane is not 1 mole.

I don't understand where the 176g of CO2 came from...
 
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raychild said:
I don't understand where the 176g of CO2 came from...

Neither do I :wink:

176g of CO2 is produced when you burn 1 mole of butane. Question doesn't ask about 1 mole of butane, so 176g is not a correct answer. It is a correct answer to some other question.

Actually for every number you can construct a problem that the number will be a correct answer.
 
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I'm lost on how to solve this problem still...I got the 33g of butane but am not sure how to get to the 99g of CO2.

And I agree with you about working problems out on our own first in order to learn but I have been looking at this one for way too long!
 
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Phew, thank you! I appreciate your help. It all makes sense now :)
 

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