Heat of Combustion of N2H4 - Calculating Final Temperature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a bomb calorimeter after the combustion of hydrazine (N2H4). Participants explore the implications of the heat of combustion, the relationship between heat transfer and temperature change, and the assumptions involved in the calorimetry setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the heat evolved from the combustion of 1.6 g of hydrazine, concluding a value of -30.9 kJ, but questions their understanding of ΔH and Q.
  • Another participant suggests that the combustion of a substance should increase the temperature of the calorimeter, affirming that it is exothermic.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions of the calorimeter being adiabatic, leading to a discussion on the change in internal energy and the number of moles involved in the reaction.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the heat of combustion and its relation to the calorimeter's heat transfer, with emphasis on the distinction between ΔH and Q.
  • Participants discuss the importance of understanding the signs in thermodynamic equations and the potential confusion regarding the heat of combustion values (higher vs. lower heating value).
  • One participant notes that the problem does not specify whether to include the sensible heat change of the gas mixture, which could affect the internal energy change calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the heat of combustion and its application in the calorimetry context. There is no consensus on how to approach the calculations or the assumptions regarding the calorimeter's properties.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the heat of combustion values and whether the sensible heat change of the gas mixture should be included in the calculations. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on the relationship between ΔH and Q in the context of the calorimeter.

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Homework Statement


The combustion of hydrazine, N2H4, produces nitrogen gas and water vapor. The heat of combustion for this reaction is -618 kJ/mol. If 1.6 g of hydrazine are combusted in a bomb calorimeter at 298 K and with a heat capacity of 6.2 kJ/C, what will be the temperature of the bomb calorimeter after the reaction?

Answer: 303 K

Homework Equations


Q=CΔT

The Attempt at a Solution


We're given ΔH, which is -618 kJ/mol. Thus 1.6 grams of hydrazine is 0.05 mol. Multiplying ΔH and mol gives me the heat evolved (Q) = -30.9 kJ.

Setting up the equation, I get:
Q=CΔT
-30.9 kJ = (6.2 kJ/C)(Tf-25)
Tf = 20 C

Converting this to Kelvin, I get 293 K. What did I do wrong here? I think that I am confusing ΔH and Q?
 
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Would you expect the combustion of a substance to increase or decrease the temperature of the calorimeter?
 
The calorimeter and its contents is assumed to be adiabatic, so Q = 0. The change in internal energy for the combination of calorimeter and contents is thus also zero (constant volume). From the heat of combustion, do you know how to get the change in internal energy of the reaction at 25 C? What is the change in the number of moles for the reaction?

Chet
 
Ygggdrasil said:
Would you expect the combustion of a substance to increase or decrease the temperature of the calorimeter?
Increase since it is exothermic. My numbers are off.
 
brake4country said:
Increase since it is exothermic. My numbers are off.
Not only are you numbers off. Your equation is off.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
The calorimeter and its contents is assumed to be adiabatic, so Q = 0. The change in internal energy for the combination of calorimeter and contents is thus also zero (constant volume). From the heat of combustion, do you know how to get the change in internal energy of the reaction at 25 C? What is the change in the number of moles for the reaction?

Chet
So we know that ΔH is -618 kJ/mol. Given that there is 1.6 g of hydrazine, this translate into 0.05 mol. Thus, Q = 31 kJ. If one mole of hydrazine was combusted, the heat of combustion tells us that 618 kJ of energy is released.

I understand that this is exothermic, thus the temperature must increase. I can do process of elimination for this problem but I would like to understand where my reasoning was flawed.

I know that I have to use Q=CΔT for a bomb calorimeter.
 
brake4country said:
So we know that ΔH is -618 kJ/mol. Given that there is 1.6 g of hydrazine, this translate into 0.05 mol. Thus, Q = 31 kJ. If one mole of hydrazine was combusted, the heat of combustion tells us that 618 kJ of energy is released.

I understand that this is exothermic, thus the temperature must increase. I can do process of elimination for this problem but I would like to understand where my reasoning was flawed.

I know that I have to use Q=CΔT for a bomb calorimeter.
The ##\Delta H## referred to by the heat of combustion does not refer to the ##\Delta H## of the calorimeter. The heat of combustion is the amount of heat that must be removed from a combination of 1 mole of N2H2 and 1 mole of oxygen when they react completely at 1 atm to form 1 mole of N2 and 2 moles of water, in order to hold the temperature constant at 25 C. Even if we neglect the change in the number of moles, because the calorimeter is insulated, ##\Delta H## for the combination of reaction mixture and calorimater is equal to Q for the combination of reaction mixture and calorimeter, and both are equal to zero. So, for the combination of calorimeter and reaction mixture, ##\Delta H=0##. If the reaction mixture started at 25 C, and its final temperature were 25 C, its change in enthalpy would be -31 kJ. The overall change in enthalpy for the reaction mixture plus the calorimeter is then $$\Delta H=-31 + C (T-25) = 0$$
 
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So that's what I was missing: Qrxn=-Qcal
 
brake4country said:
So that's what I was missing: Qrxn=-Qcal
Yes, if you want to say it that way. But I always reserve the use of the symbol Q exclusively for heat transferred in or out of a system through the boundary between the system and the surroundings. This is how the symbol Q is used in thermodynamics.

Chet
 
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In these types of equations, I always say to use your calculator to get the numbers, but use your brain to figure out the signs. There are so many examples where a negative sign flips when transferring numbers between different equations that it's always good to do a sanity check (e.g. thinking about whether the temperature should go up or down) to figure out if you need to carry a negative sign between equations.
 
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We should also mention that it isn't clear from the problem statement whether the heat of combustion represents the "higher heating value" or the "lower heating value." In the former case, the water is assumed to be liquid in the final state, and the number of moles of gas decreases, while, in the latter case, the water is assumed to be vapor and the number of moles of gas increases. These considerations are important in determining the internal energy change of the reaction, which may or may not include heat of condensation and which also must include the ##Delta (PV)##. For a constant volume system like this, it is the internal energy change that is zero, not the enthalpy change. Also, the problem statement does not indicate whether the sensible heat change of the gas mixture is expected to be included.

Chet
 

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