Calculate Metal Density Using Tension in Water - Step by Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around calculating the density of a metal piece using the tension in a thread when the piece is immersed in water. The problem involves concepts from fluid mechanics and buoyancy, specifically Archimedes' principle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between tension, buoyant force, and the principles of fluid mechanics. Questions arise regarding how to derive volume and density from the given forces and the properties of water.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth discussion, clarifying concepts and attempting to derive necessary values. Some have suggested methods to find mass and volume based on the buoyant force and the density of water. There is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the calculations involved.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed without explicit values for volume and mass. The original poster is under pressure to resolve the problem for an upcoming exam.

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Findind density !


A piece of metal of unknown volume is immersed in water by means of a thread. Before lowering the piece in water , the tension in the thread is 10 N .
The tension in the thread in when the piece is immersed in water is 8 N.
Find the Density of the metal?




My Attempt :

10N-8N=2N . .
Now , How to calculate volume using Newton? :/

Solve it before i come up with a zero in my exam
 
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Student_93 said:
10N-8N=2N . .
OK, that's the buoyant force on the object. What does Archimedes' principle tell you?
 


it tells me . .
when an object is immersed in a liquid ,the liquid applies a buoyant force which is equal to the weight of water displaced by the object.
 


Student_93 said:
it tells me . .
when an object is immersed in a liquid ,the liquid applies a buoyant force which is equal to the weight of water displaced by the object.
Right! Use that fact to figure out the volume. (What's the density of water?)
 


1 gcm^3
but i still didn't get it how can i find density when i don't have the values of volume and mass?
 


Student_93 said:
but i still didn't get it how can i find density when i don't have the values of volume and mass?
(1) Use the weight of the object to find its mass.
(2) Use the buoyant force and the density of water to find its volume.
 


The volume of water displaced is the volume of the suspended mass. The difference between immersed and unimmersed tension tells you the mass of the water displaced.
 


why don't u solve it and give me answer? :P
 


i have got it . . .
its mass is 0.2 kg
and F=p*g*v
And v=F/p*g
v=2/1000*10
v=0.0002 m^3

m=w/g
m=10/10
m=1 kg

density = Mass/Volume
=1/0.0002
density=5000 kgm^-3
 
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Physics is easy, except for the hard part.
 

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