Calculate Oxidation State of Acetate (C2H3O2)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the oxidation state of the acetate ion (C2H3O2), focusing on the complexities involved in determining oxidation states in polyatomic ions and organic molecules.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to calculate the oxidation state of acetate, suggesting a formula but expressing uncertainty about the sharing of electrons between carbon and hydrogen.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on which element's oxidation state is being calculated.
  • A participant notes that oxidation numbers are not properties of elements but of specific atoms, highlighting the challenges in organic molecules.
  • A later reply acknowledges a mistake in understanding oxidation states, indicating a personal reflection on the complexity of the topic.

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The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on the calculation of oxidation states, with no consensus reached on the correct approach or understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the rules for determining oxidation states, particularly in the context of organic chemistry and polyatomic ions.

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how to calculate , oxidation state of polyatomic ions like " acetate"

C2H3O2

2(4)-3-4= +1 ?

how do we know when carbon or hydrogen are sharing x electrons
 
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alijan kk said:
how to calculate , oxidation state of polyatomic ions like " acetate"

Of which element ?
 
Oxidation number is not property of an element, but of an atom.

Especially in organic molecules this can be quite tricky.
 
Borek said:
Oxidation number is not property of an element, but of an atom.

Especially in organic molecules this can be quite tricky.

True. I messed it up, no excuses :(.
 

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