Calculate Rotational Force of 105 kg Bag Displaced 1m

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The problem involves a mail bag with a mass of 105 kg suspended by a vertical rope, requiring the calculation of the horizontal force needed to maintain the bag in a displaced position 1 meter from its original vertical alignment. The subject area pertains to static equilibrium and forces in physics.

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  • The original poster attempts to resolve the problem using geometric considerations and Newton's second law, expressing confusion about the application of gravitational acceleration in a static scenario. Some participants clarify that the situation is static and suggest using a force diagram. Others inquire about the angles involved in the tension forces and the geometry of the setup.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of force diagrams and the static nature of the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to calculating work done in the second part of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of static equilibrium and the relationship between forces and angles in the context of the problem. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the calculation of work done, indicating that assumptions about energy changes are under consideration.

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Hello,

My question is this:
A mail bag with a mass of 105 kg is suspended by a vertical rope of length 7.00 m. What horizontal force is necessary to hold the bag in a position displaced sideways a distance of 1.00 m from its initial position?

I tried to start this problem but I keep getting stuck. I start out figuring that it is an isosceles triganle with the legs being 7m and the base being 1 m. from there i figured that if i resolved the 1 meter into its horizontal and vertical components, I would be able to find the force using Newtons second law using 9.8 meters per second squared as the acceleration and the mass as 105 kg. but i think that using 9.8 meters per second squared is wrong because that is acceleration due to gravity and I only need horizontal acceleration... I am confusing myself with this problem...
 
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emeraldempres said:
What horizontal force is necessary to hold the bag in a position displaced sideways a distance of 1.00 m from its initial position?

Hi emeraldempres ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

I think the 1.00 m is the sideways distance, not the total distance.
I only need horizontal acceleration …

There is no acceleration!

The situation is static.

Just use a force diagram! :smile:
 
thanks for the welcome!

so if i do the diagram, i have two ropes, one hanging vertically (that is slanted) and one pulling horizontally, and I am calculating the tension on the one pulling horizontally? how do i know the angles at which the semi vertical rope is slanted?am i on th right track? Thanks for your reply =)
 
emeraldempres said:
so if i do the diagram, i have two ropes, one hanging vertically (that is slanted) and one pulling horizontally, and I am calculating the tension on the one pulling horizontally?

Hi emeraldempres! :smile:

Yes (and the weight should also be in the diagram, of course).
how do i know the angles at which the semi vertical rope is slanted?

Geometry … you have a right-angled triangle. :smile:
 
thank you. I have come to the answer of 149 Newtons. The second part of the problem says to calculate the work done by the worker to get to this postion. I have tried work= 149N*1m and that does not work, then w= 149n*1m*cos (82 degrees), and that does not work. is ther something i am missing?
 
Hi emeraldempres,

emeraldempres said:
thank you. I have come to the answer of 149 Newtons. The second part of the problem says to calculate the work done by the worker to get to this postion. I have tried work= 149N*1m and that does not work, then w= 149n*1m*cos (82 degrees), and that does not work. is ther something i am missing?

The work done is related to the change in energy. How is the energy changing as the worker pulls the mailbag to its final position?
 

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