Calculate T for Maximum Altitude: 1D Kinematics Problem Solution

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The problem involves a 1D kinematics scenario where a rocket is launched from rest and must reach a maximum altitude of 990 m. The rocket experiences an upward acceleration of 16.0 m/s² during a time period T before entering free fall. The objective is to determine the value of T required to achieve this altitude.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between different time variables in the kinematic equations, questioning how to properly account for the time during engine burn versus the time during free fall.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the setup of the equations, particularly regarding the quadratic equation derived from the motion equations.
  • There is mention of a potential misunderstanding of the variables T and t, leading to confusion in the calculations.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing guidance on how to relate the different time variables. There is recognition of the need to clarify the definitions of T and t, and some have arrived at numerical values that differ, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between the time during engine operation and the time during free fall, which is critical for correctly applying the kinematic equations. There is also a reference to the correct interpretation of the equations used in the problem.

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Homework Statement


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During your summer internship for an aerospace company, you are asked to design a small research rocket. The rocket is to be launched from rest from the earth’'s surface and is to reach a maximum height of 990 m above the earth'’s surface. The rocket’'s engines give the rocket an upward acceleration of 16.0 m/s2 during the time T that they fire. After the engines shut off, the rocket is in free fall. Ignore air resistance.

What it asks for : What must be the value of T in order for the rocket to reach the required altitude?

Homework Equations


basic kinematics formulas
X= Xo + volt+1/2AT^2
V=Vo+AT
V^2=Vo^2+2A(X-Xo)

o denotes initial

The Attempt at a Solution


| X3= 990 V3=0
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| X2= V2= A=-9.8
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| X1=0 V1=0 A=16.0 m/s

X3=X2+V2T-1/2 9.8T^2
X2=X1+V1T+.5*16*T^2
X2=0+0T+.5^16*T^2
X2=8T^2

plugging pack into original equation:
X3=8T^2 +V2T -4,9 T^2
combining like terms
X3= 3.1T^2 + V2T

finding V2:
V2=V1+16T
V2=0+16T
V2=16T
plugging back in

X3= 3.1T^2 + 16T
X3=990
990=3.1T^2 + 16T

it is a quadratic equation I graphed it to find the X value, I got 20.65 , but it is wrong, where Did I go wrong?
 
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The 'T's that appear here
David112234 said:
X3=X2+V2T-1/2 9.8T^2
and
David112234 said:
X2=X1+V1T+.5*16*T^2
are not the same.
The first is the time it takes for the rocket to reach zero velocity after the engines were shut off, while the second is the boost time during which the engines were turned on.
 
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Fightfish said:
The 'T's that appear here

and
are not the same.
The first is the time it takes for the rocket to reach zero velocity after the engines were shut off, while the second is the boost time during which the engines were turned on.

So what alternative method should I use?
 
There is no need for an alternative method; your general approach is okay - just that you need to be careful when you keep track of the two different times. To proceed, you have to find out how the time t_{2} in x_{3}=x_{2}+ v_{2}t_{2} -\frac{1}{2} g {t_{2}}^2 is related to the boost time T.
(Hint: Use v=v_{0}+at)
 
Fightfish said:
There is no need for an alternative method; your general approach is okay - just that you need to be careful when you keep track of the two different times. To proceed, you have to find out how the time t_{2} in x_{3}=x_{2}+ v_{2}t_{2} -\frac{1}{2} g {t_{2}}^2 is related to the boost time T.
(Hint: Use v=v_{0}+at)

V3=V2+AT
V2=16t
V3=16t-9.8T
V3=0
0=16t-9.8T
-16t=-9.8T
16/9.8t = T

8t2+16t2-4.9T2
8t2+16t2-4.9(16/9.8 t)2

990= 10.93 t2
90.5=t2
√90.5 =t
t= 9.513

the correct answer is 6.86.
 
David112234 said:
the correct answer is 6.86.
Yup, that's what I got.

This line is not correct:
David112234 said:
x_{3} = 8t^2+16t^2-4.9T
It should be
x_{3} = x_{2} + v_{2}t - \frac{1}{2}g t^2 = \frac{1}{2}a T^{2} + (aT)t - \frac{1}{2}g t^2
Substitute t = (a/g)T as you've derived above, and you should be done.

(Note: I realized the meaning of t and T I've used here is opposite of what you have in that post, but you should be able to make the connection :p)
 
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