Calculate T: Sum of Correlated Random Variables from i=1 to m

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the sum of correlated random variables, specifically addressing the expression T = Ʃ Xi from i=1 to m, where Xi are correlated random variables. Participants explore the implications of correlation on the mean and variance of the sum, as well as the scenario where the number of variables, n, is itself a random variable.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance on how to obtain the sum of correlated random variables.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the initial request, suggesting that the sum itself is straightforward but implying a possible interest in the mean or variance of the sum.
  • A participant explains that the expectation of the sum of random variables equals the sum of their means, regardless of correlation, and details how to compute the variance, which includes pairwise covariances.
  • A later reply raises the question of how to compute the mean and variance if the number of variables, n, is also a random variable, noting that no simple formula applies in general cases but suggesting a specific scenario where n is independent of the Xi.
  • Another example is provided where the sum is formed based on a stopping rule dependent on the values of the Xi.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding regarding the initial question, with some clarifying the implications of correlation on mean and variance while others explore more complex scenarios involving a random n. No consensus is reached on a definitive approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the variance calculation involves pairwise covariances and that special cases may yield simpler formulas, but these conditions are not universally applicable. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of n being a random variable.

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Hi all, I would like to get assistance on how to obtain the sum of correlated random variables

T = Ʃ Xi, from i=1 to m

where Xi are correlated rvs


Please help if you can!
 
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starblazzers said:
how to obtain the sum of correlated random variables

That doesn't make sense as a question. If you want the sum, you just take the sum.

Perhaps you are trying to ask something about the mean of the sum or the variance of the sum.
 


The expectation (i.e. mean) of a sum of random variables is equal to the sum of their means. It doesn't matter whether the random variables are correlated or not.

The variance of a sum of random variables is the sum of all the pairwise covariances, including each variable paired with itself (in which case, the variance of that variable is computed).

Let [itex]X_1, X_2,...X_n[/itex] be random variables.
Let [itex]S = \sum_{i=1}^n X_i[/itex]
Let the expectation of a random variable [itex]X[/itex] be denoted by [itex]E(X)[/itex]
Let the variance of a random variable [itex]X[/itex] be denoted by [itex]Var(X)[/itex]
Let the covariance of a random variable [itex]X[/itex] be denoted by [itex]Cov(X)[/itex]
(So [itex]Var(X) = Cov(X,X)[/itex] . )

Then
[itex]E(S) = \sum_{i=1}^n E(X_i)[/itex]

[itex]Var(S) = \sum_{i=1}^n ( \sum_{j=1}^n Cov(X_i,X_j) )[/itex]
 


How would the mean E(S) and Var(S) be if n is also a random variable?

I don't know any simple formula that applies. There could be simple formulas in special cases. For example if the means of the [itex]X_i[/itex] are all the same and [itex]n[/itex] is independent of each of the [itex]X_i[/itex] then I think the mean of [itex]S[/itex] is given by the product: (the mean of [itex]n[/itex] ) (the mean of [itex]X_1[/itex] ).


As an example of a case where [itex]n[/itex] is dependent on the [itex]X_i[/itex], suppose the sum is formed according to the rule: Set the sum = [itex]X_1[/itex] and then add another [itex]X_i[/itex] until you draw some [itex]X_i > 2.0[/itex]. When that happens, stop summing.
 

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