Calculate the terminal velocity for a pollen grain

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the terminal velocity of a pollen grain falling through air, utilizing the drag force equation. The original poster provides specific parameters, including the pollen grain's diameter and density, and seeks assistance in understanding their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate terminal velocity using given equations and parameters but expresses confusion regarding their results. Some participants question the assumption of the drag coefficient and clarify the relationship between diameter and cross-sectional area.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying assumptions and calculations. There is a focus on the drag coefficient and its impact on the calculations, with some guidance offered regarding the correct formula for volume and area. The discussion remains open with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate drag coefficient to use, as the original poster assumed a value of 1 without specific information. Additionally, there is a noted confusion about the relationship between diameter and cross-sectional area, which is being addressed in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the terminal velocity for a pollen grain falling through the air using the drag force equation. Assume the pollen grain has a diameter of 7 µm and a density of 0.3 g/cm3.


Homework Equations



Vterm= sq.rt of 2mg/pA
Volume= 4/3pi*r^2
Density = m/v

The Attempt at a Solution



I am given the answer but need to show how to get there.
Here is what I have, can someone point out where exactly I am going wrong?
Thank you!

Vterm= sq.rt of 2mg/pA

p= air density of 1.3kg and

A = cross section of the pollen grain
A= 7µm = 0.000007m

To find mass of pollen grain:
radius= 1/2diameter
= 1/2(0.000007)
= 0.0000035m
Volume= 4/3pi*r^2
= 4/3pi(0.0000035)^2
= 5.13x10^-11 m^3
Density = m/v
m=DV
=0.3g/m^2 (5.13x10^-11 m^3)
= 1.54 x10^-11g
to kg = 1.54 x10^-14 kg

So, Vterm= sq.rt of 2mg/pA
Vterm = sq.rt. of 2(1.54 x10^-14 kg)(9.8m/s^2) / (1.3kg/m^2)(0.000007m)
=0.0018m/s

But I know this is wrong since I am given the final answer, which is 0.145m/s
I've worked it out so many times and I'm stuck. Please help.
 
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sarmar said:
Vterm= sq.rt of 2mg/pA
Are you assuming a drag coefficient = 1?

A = cross section of the pollen grain
A= 7µm = 0.000007m
7µm is the diameter of the pollen grain.
 
Doc Al said:
Are you assuming a drag coefficient = 1?


7µm is the diameter of the pollen grain.


I am not given any information for drag coefficient. So I suppose I was assuming 1. I found online the drag coefficient of a spherical object is approx. 0.5

I thought the diameter was the same as the cross-section.
Area of a circle? A=p*r^2
=pi*0.0000035^2
=3.85x10^-11 so,
A=cross-section=3.85x10^-11

so then I just re-figure the mass ?
 
sarmar said:
I am not given any information for drag coefficient. So I suppose I was assuming 1. I found online the drag coefficient of a spherical object is approx. 0.5
That sounds OK.
I thought the diameter was the same as the cross-section.
No, A is the cross-sectional area.
Area of a circle? A=p*r^2
=pi*0.0000035^2
=3.85x10^-11 so,
A=cross-section=3.85x10^-11
Looks OK.

so then I just re-figure the mass ?
Why would you re-figure the mass?
 
Doc Al said:
Why would you re-figure the mass?


Well because I'm still not getting the right answer...
 
sarmar said:
To find mass of pollen grain:
radius= 1/2diameter
= 1/2(0.000007)
= 0.0000035m
Volume= 4/3pi*r^2
That should be: 4/3pi*r^3.
 
Thank you!
 

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