Calculate Time for Fridge to Cool 1m3 Air from 20°C to 3°C

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the time required for a refrigerator to cool 1m³ of air from 20°C to 3°C, considering the compressor's power output of 200 watts. Participants explore the necessary data and assumptions needed for such a calculation, including efficiency and specific heat capacity.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Jim, proposes using the equation T = E/P to calculate cooling time but expresses difficulty in applying this to the fridge's piping system.
  • Another participant suggests that without additional data on the fridge's efficiency and cooling cycle, the calculation may not be feasible.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that while air cools relatively quickly due to its low specific heat capacity, the presence of food items could significantly increase cooling time.
  • Another participant argues that thermodynamic principles alone cannot provide a solution, emphasizing the importance of the fridge's design, air movement, and environmental factors like room temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that additional data and assumptions are necessary for an accurate calculation. However, there are competing views on the impact of specific factors such as the presence of food and the fridge's design on cooling efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for specific efficiency data of the fridge, assumptions about the cooling cycle, and the influence of external temperature conditions on the cooling process.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in thermodynamics, refrigeration technology, or those working on related engineering problems.

Jimmy234
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Hi Guys

I have a relatively simple question (I think!),

I am trying to calculate the amount of time it takes for a fridge to cool 1m3 of air from 20°C to 3°C while running a fridge's compressor at 200 watts

I have calculated this using T = E/P

From this I am trying to work out the time this 1m3 of air will take to go through the piping system within the fridge using;

Flow rate = Volume / Time

I'm having trouble with putting all of this into practice, any help would be appreciated.

Jim
 
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Without more data, this won't work.
I guess the air is not going through the compressor, it gets cooled with a separate cooling cycle? Either way, you'll need data how efficient the fridge is, this will also depend on the temperature difference.
 
Air doesn't have a very high specific heat capacity, so I'm thinking you'll find that a general refrigerator will be able to cool a cubic meter volume pretty fast. However, if you take ainto account a body of food in it (especially one with high water content, even a gallon of milk) it will take significantly longer to cool.

If you make some assumptions about the typical efficiency of a fridge (maybe using the refrigeration coefficient of performance equations), you would be able to get a rough estimate of the time involved.
 
You can't calculate it from thermodynamic principles - it depends on the design and efficiency of the particular fridge. (How fast does the fan move the air, what's the surface area of the cooling coils, what's the temperature of the room, etc.)

If this is more in the nature of a test question, perhaps you can assume ideal efficiency, but you still need the room's temperature.
 

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