Calculating Car's Fall into Ocean from Cliff

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car rolling down an incline and subsequently falling off a cliff into the ocean. The scenario includes parameters such as the angle of the incline, the distance rolled, and the height of the cliff, which are relevant to kinematics and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the basic equations of motion and how to apply them to find the car's position and time of fall. There are attempts to break down the motion into components and consider the effects of gravity. Some participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations and question the initial conditions.

Discussion Status

Guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations of motion and the decomposition of velocity into components. Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and discussing the implications of initial conditions and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the need for clarification on initial velocities and the effects of gravity in the context of the problem. There is also a mention of neglecting air resistance in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


A car is parked on a cliff overlooking the ocean on an incline that makes an angle of 25.0° below the horizontal. The negligent driver leaves the car in neutral, and the emergency brakes are defective. The car rolls from rest down the incline with a constant acceleration of 3.97 m/s2 for a distance of 30.0 m to the edge of the cliff. The cliff is 50.0 m above the ocean.
(a) Find the car's position relative to the base of the cliff when the car lands in the ocean
______m
(b) Find the length of time the car is in the air.
___________s



Homework Equations


Not sure


The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure what to do I made pictures in all ways but can't see what I should do.
 
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Start with the basic equations of motion.
x = x_0 + v_0t + \frac{1}{2}at^2
v = v_0 + at
Find the speed at the end of the cliff. (Do the work yourself)
v = a\sqrt{2s/a} = \sqrt{2sa}

Now this vector is pointing down in an angle \theta. Divide this vector into x-component and y-component using trigonometry. If air resistance can be neglected, x speed will remain the same for the whole time but v speed will keep increasing due to gravity. Try and ask for more help if necessary.
 
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Alright can you explain this that has no numbers to put into equations.

A home run is hit in a baseball game. The ball is hit from home base into the center field stands, along a parabolic path. What is the acceleration of the ball at each of the following points? (Ignore air resistance.)
(a) while it is rising
___m/s2
(b) at the highest point of the trajectory
___ m/s2
(c) while it is descending after reaching the highest point
____m/s2
 
Hello Adam900,

Welcome to Physics Forums!
Adam900 said:
Alright can you explain this that has no numbers to put into equations.

A home run is hit in a baseball game. The ball is hit from home base into the center field stands, along a parabolic path. What is the acceleration of the ball at each of the following points? (Ignore air resistance.)
(a) while it is rising
___m/s2
(b) at the highest point of the trajectory
___ m/s2
(c) while it is descending after reaching the highest point
____m/s2
In the future, please start a new thread for a new question.

But I'll give you a hint anyway. At each point, what is(are) the force(s) acting on the ball? (You get to ignore air resistance, so forget about that one.) Is(are) any particular acceleration(s) associated with said force(s)?

(Remember Newton's second law. An object isn't going to accelerate unless forces are acting upon it. :wink:)
 
Hmm so Vi would be 0 and acceleration/gravity would be -9.8? I still don't see what else I can find from this information in the problem like a distance or angle it was hit at.
 
[PLAIN]http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5674/carpic.png

You know v = \sqrt{2sa}
Thus v_x = vcos(\theta) = \sqrt{2sa}cos(\theta)
and v_y = vsin(\theta) = \sqrt{2sa}sin(\theta)

There's some more help. Use v_y to find the time it takes for the car to fall to the ocean.
Remember the equations of motion.

Oh and just to clarify, s = the distance the car rolls down the hill = 30m.
 
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Adam900 said:
Hmm so Vi would be 0
Well, no, the velocity isn't zero. But the question isn't asking about the velocity.
and acceleration/gravity would be -9.8?
There you go. :approve:
 

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