Calculating Change in Potential Energy of Moon 4.0 cm Closer to Earth

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in gravitational potential energy as the Moon is moved 4.0 cm closer to the Earth. The problem involves the masses of the Moon and Earth, the initial distance between them, and the change in distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of gravitational potential energy using the formula GMm/r and question the reasonableness of the results obtained. There is also a focus on the importance of maintaining significant digits when calculating the difference in potential energy due to a small change in distance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations, emphasizing the need to consider the precision of the values used. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the focus should be on gravitational potential or potential energy, indicating a productive dialogue about the problem's requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential confusion between gravitational potential and potential energy, as well as the implications of the small distance change on their calculations. The original poster's inquiry about the correctness of their answer suggests a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement



Mass of moon - 7.3 x 10^22 kg
Mass of Earth - 6.0 x 10^24
distance between moon and Earth - 356400 km
change in distance 4 cm

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The Attempt at a Solution



I just need to check if my answer is correct, I get some thing to the power 28, using the equation GMm/r

Is my answer reasonable?
 
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You should get something to the 28 for the potential energy at 356400 km. Now move it 4cm and find a new potential. You will need to keep a lot of digits because most will subtract out when you find the difference between the two potentials.
 


flatmaster said:
You should get something to the 28 for the potential energy at 356400 km. Now move it 4cm and find a new potential. You will need to keep a lot of digits because most will subtract out when you find the difference between the two potentials.

I get something to the power 28 when I use the formula:
for r in meters,
-GMm/r - ( - GMm/(r+4x10^-2)

so is the value I got wrong then?
 


By the way do I need to find the potential (i.e. GM/r) or the potential energy (GM m(moon) )/r ?
 


-GMm/r

This itself should be about 10^28 if you do an order of magnitude estimate

- GMm/(r+4x10^-2)

This also be around 10^28 and be very close to the previous value.

It should be so close because r changed by only about 0.00001% This means that there should be a large number of digits that subtract out between the two numbers.

Your initial post said potential energy, so I think that's what you need. You wouldn't need the moon's mass to find potential.
 

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