Calculating Cross Sections Using Intermediate Vector Boson Theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of cross sections using Intermediate Vector Boson (IVB) theory, exploring its similarities and differences with Vector-Axial (V-A) theory. Participants seek resources and examples that illustrate these calculations, as well as the theoretical implications of the IVB model in particle physics.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about textbooks that provide explicit calculations of cross sections using IVB theory, noting that they did not find sufficient examples in Perkins or Halzen & Martin.
  • Another participant references Halzen & Martin, mentioning a specific example of muon decay rate and suggests other textbooks that might cover the topic in more depth, such as "Dynamics of the Standard Model" and "Gauge Field Theories."
  • A participant discusses the approximation made in Halzen & Martin regarding the condition \(q^2 << M_W^2\) and questions whether there are examples where this assumption is not applied.
  • Another participant acknowledges the usefulness of Halzen & Martin as a summary of basic particle physics while hinting at the need for more comprehensive texts for advanced topics.
  • One participant proposes that calculating cross sections using IVB theory is analogous to using V-A theory, providing a mathematical expression for the cross section and discussing the implications of high energy behavior in IVB theory.
  • A later reply agrees that the IVB model improves high energy behavior but raises concerns about its nonrenormalizability and the differences in coupling relations compared to the Standard Model weak interaction.
  • Another participant mentions that the original IVB model had only vector coupling and references a book by Aitchison and Hey that discusses the IVB model.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the similarities between IVB and V-A theories, but there is no consensus on the implications of the IVB model's nonrenormalizability or its differences from the Standard Model. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the adequacy of existing textbooks and the specific examples of cross section calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the available resources and the need for deeper exploration of the IVB theory, particularly regarding assumptions made in calculations and the implications of high energy behavior.

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Would anyone know of any textbook that has explicit calculations of cross section using intermediate vector boson theory? I've looked in Perkins and Halzen+Martin but I do not see any in those texts.
 
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I just looked into my Halzen & Martin, and I find there the muon decay rate calculated explicitely (just one example).

If Halzen & Martin's introductory textbook does not go deep enough, you probably need any textbook entitled "introduction to quantum field theory". Or "Dynamics of the Standard Model" (Donoghue, Golowich & Holstein @ Cambridge University Press) might do if you want phenomenology. If you are enclined towards theory, try Pokorsky's "Gauge Field Theories" @ same editor.
 
In H+M, then give the amplitude using ivb theory (12.14) then they makes the approximation that [tex]q^2<<M_W^2[/tex] allowing the use of [tex]\frac{G}{\sqrt{2}}=\frac{g^2}{8M^2_W}[/tex] which then they eventually conclude with 12.35

Are there examples where they do not make this assumption?
 
indigojoker said:
Are there examples where they do not make this assumption?
Later on when they talk about interferences in electron-positron annihilation for instance. But as you reach the end of this book, you probably need a thicker one :smile:

Therefore, congrats to you, because Halzen & Martin is a nice summary of basic particle physics.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but calculating the cross section using IVB theory is very similar to using V-A theory. For example:

Say the cross section for some process is: [tex]\sigma = \frac{G^2 s}{\pi}[/tex] (H+M 12.60)

Then using IVB theory, we take out the [tex]\frac{G^2}{4}[/tex] constant when calculating the amplitude and replace it with [tex]\left(\frac{g^2}{M_W^2+q^2}\right)^2[/tex] so when all is said and done, we are left with the cross section as: [tex]\sigma=\left(\frac{g^2}{M_W^2+q^2}\right)^2 \frac{4s}{\pi}[/tex]

I think this makes sense because the first cross section allows [tex]\sigma[/tex] to go to infinity as s becomes large while using the IMV theory, the cross section is corrected at large s by the q^2 on the denominator, thus giving a finite total cross section.
 
indigojoker said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but calculating the cross section using IVB theory is very similar to using V-A theory. For example:

Say the cross section for some process is: [tex]\sigma = \frac{G^2 s}{\pi}[/tex] (H+M 12.60)

Then using IVB theory, we take out the [tex]\frac{G^2}{4}[/tex] constant when calculating the amplitude and replace it with [tex]\left(\frac{g^2}{M_W^2+q^2}\right)^2[/tex] so when all is said and done, we are left with the cross section as: [tex]\sigma=\left(\frac{g^2}{M_W^2+q^2}\right)^2 \frac{4s}{\pi}[/tex]

I think this makes sense because the first cross section allows [tex]\sigma[/tex] to go to infinity as s becomes large while using the IMV theory, the cross section is corrected at large s by the q^2 on the denominator, thus giving a finite total cross section.


Hi indigojoker,

It's definitely true that the IVB model improves greatly the high energy behavior.
It turns out, though, that it is nonrenormalizable if I recall correctly. I am not sure about this but I think that essentially, the difference between the IVB and the Standard Model weak interaction is that in the IVB model there is no relation between between the couplings to the charged and neutral carriers. In the weak interaction, there is of course a definite relation between them. Another difference (I think but am not sure) is that I think the original IVB model had only vector coupling ([tex]\gamma^\mu[/tex] ).

The book by Aitchison and Hey discusses a little bit the IVB model (Gauge theories in Particle Physics)
 

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