Calculating Density of a Liquid with Archimedes' Principle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the density of a liquid using Archimedes' principle, based on the apparent mass of an aluminum ball when submerged in the liquid. The original poster presents a problem involving buoyancy forces and the relationship between mass, volume, and density.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of buoyancy force and its relation to the apparent mass of the submerged object. Questions arise regarding the correct application of the apparent mass in the calculations and the interpretation of the problem setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the calculations presented, with suggestions for clarification and alternative approaches. There is a mix of agreement and inquiry regarding the methods used, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the final solution.

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Participants note the challenge of determining the density of the liquid rather than the object itself, which may lead to confusion in the calculations. The discussion reflects an emphasis on understanding the principles involved rather than arriving at a definitive answer.

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Homework Statement



It is found that a 3.70-kg aluminum ball has an apparent mass of 2.20 kg when submerged in a particular liquid.
Calculate the density of this liquid in kg/m3.

Homework Equations



Bouyancy force=density*volume*gravity
Volume=mass/density

The Attempt at a Solution



1. Look-up density of Al: density=2.7*10^3 kg/m^3

2. Volume of ball=(mall ball)/(density of ball)=0.00137m^3

3. Bouyancy force on ball=2.2*9.81=21.582N=weight of fluid displaced (Archimede's principle)

4. So the mass of 0.00137m^3 of the fluid can be solved by...
weight of fluid=(mass of fluid)g
mass of fluid=2.2kg

5. density of fluid=(mass fluid)/(volume of fluid)=1606 kg/m^3...

Did I use the apparent mass correctly in step 3?
 
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Bouyancy force on ball=(3.70-2.20)*9.81.

Regards,

Nacer.
 
Nacer said:
Bouyancy force on ball=(3.70-2.20)*9.81.

Regards,

Nacer.

Can you explain why and did I do the rest of problem correctly?
 
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try a free body diagram where the ball is suspended in the fluid from a spring scale. Ordinarily the weight measured would be g*3.7, only in this case the scale measures 2.2*g kg. the difference is the upwards directed buoyancy force. (which as you have noted is density*volume*g.)

in this case, the problem is a bit of a curve ball as normally the x being sought is the density or volume of the object and not the medium, which is what I think got you a little tangled up above. that help at all?
 
This look correct?

1. Look-up density of Al: density=2.7*10^3 kg/m^3

2. Volume of ball=(mass ball)/(density of ball)=0.00137m^3

3. Buoyancy force on ball=(3.7-2.2)g=14.715N=weight of fluid displaced (Archimedes's principle)

4. So the mass of 0.00137m^3 of the fluid can be solved by...
weight of fluid=(mass of fluid)g
mass of fluid=1.5 kg

5. density of fluid=(mass fluid)/(volume of fluid)=1095 kg/m^3
 
i didn't run the numbers but I think you nailed it. Didn't need to multiply and then divide by g, but that's a small nitpick.
 

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