Calculating Dipole Moment In 3s To 2p Hydrogen Transition

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Homework Statement
Find the intensity associated with the transition in the hydrogen atom.
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$$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}\right\vert^{2}$$
I know that to find the intensity, I must first calculate the transition rate. I started from the transition rate equation for spontaneous emission. $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}\right\vert^{2}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot e\boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle\right\vert^{2}$$
Where ##\boldsymbol{\epsilon}## is the polarisation vector. An equivalent formulation is $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}\right\vert^{2}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert r\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle\right\vert^{2}$$
Where I have split ##\boldsymbol{r}=r\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}}## into the product of its magnitude and unit vector. Finding the dipole moment then becomes an issue of computing a radial integral and an integral over the solid angle. The radial integral is straightforward. $$\int_0^\infty \text{d}r r^2 r R_{2,1}^* R_{3,0}=\frac{2^{15}3^{8} a_0^2}{5^{12}}$$
To compute the angular integral, I have used that the unit vector components of the coordinate operator are related to the spherical harmonics in the following way.
$$x_\text{uv}=\sin(\theta)\cos(\phi)=-\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}-Y_{1,-1}\right)$$$$y_\text{uv}=\sin(\theta)\sin(\phi)=i\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}+Y_{1,-1}\right)$$$$z_\text{uv}=\cos(\theta)=\sqrt{\frac{4\pi}{3}}Y_{1,0}$$
Hence $$\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}}=-\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}-Y_{1,-1}\right)\epsilon_x+i\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}+Y_{1,-1}\right)\epsilon_y+\sqrt{\frac{4\pi}{3}}Y_{1,0}\epsilon_z$$ And the angular integral becomes $$\int\text{d}\Omega Y_{1,m_l}^* Y_{0,0}\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{4\pi}}\sqrt{\frac{4\pi}{3}}\int\text{d}\Omega Y_{1,m_l}^* \left(\frac{-\epsilon_x+i\epsilon_y}{\sqrt{2}}Y_{1,1}+\frac{\epsilon_x+i\epsilon_y}{\sqrt{2}}Y_{1,-1}+\epsilon_z Y_{1,0}\right)$$
Spherical harmonics are orthonormal when integrated over the solid angle. This gives $$\int\text{d}\Omega Y_{1,m_l}^* Y_{0,0}\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\left(\frac{-\epsilon_x+i\epsilon_y}{\sqrt{2}}\delta_{m_l,1}+\frac{\epsilon_x+i\epsilon_y}{\sqrt{2}}\delta_{m_l,-1}+\epsilon_z \delta_{m_l,0}\right)$$
Then $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^3}{3\hbar c^3}\frac{2^{15} 3^8 a_0^2}{5^{12}}\frac{1}{3}\left(\frac{\epsilon_x^2+\epsilon_y^2}{2} \delta_{m_l,1}+\frac{\epsilon_x^2+\epsilon_y^2}{2}\delta_{m_l,-1}+\epsilon_z^2 \delta_{m_l,0}\right)$$
Where the cross terms in the squared magnitude vanish since they contain the product of ##\delta_{a,b}\delta_{a,c}## which is nonzero only if ##b=c##. The result must be summed over ##m_l=-1,0,1##.
$$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^3}{3\hbar c^3}\frac{2^{15} 3^8 a_0^2}{5^{12}}\frac{1}{3}\left(\frac{\epsilon_x^2+\epsilon_y^2}{2}+\frac{\epsilon_x^2+\epsilon_y^2}{2}+\epsilon_z^2\right)$$
The polarisations satisfy ##\vert\epsilon_x\vert^2+\vert\epsilon_y\vert^2+\vert\epsilon_z\vert^2=1##, leaving $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^3}{3\hbar c^3}\frac{2^{15} 3^8 a_0^2}{5^{12}}\frac{1}{3}$$.
Note that the initial state has an energy magnitude ##\frac{\mathcal{R}}{9}## while the final state has an energy magnitude ##\frac{\mathcal{R}}{4}##. The difference is ##\frac{5\mathcal{R}}{36}##. Since ##\mathcal{R}=\frac{e^2}{2a_0}##, the energy difference is ##\hbar\omega_{f\to i}=\frac{5e^2}{72a_0}##. Dividing through by ##\hbar## gives ##\omega_{f\to i}##.

Cubing this, substituting into ##W_{i \to f}## and using ##\alpha=\frac{e^2}{\hbar c}## gives $$W_{i \to f}=\frac{2^{17}3^6}{5^{12}}\frac{e^2 a_0^2}{\hbar c^3}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}=\frac{2^{17}3^6}{5^{12}}\frac{e^2 a_0^2}{\hbar c^3}\frac{e^6}{a_{0}^{3}\hbar^{3}}\frac{5^{3}}{2^{9}3^{6}}=\frac{2^8}{5^9}\frac{\alpha^4 c}{a_0}$$
I find that this is off by a factor of three from the well-known value of ##6.31\times 10^{6}## Hz. This is despite the fact that I have summed over the three ##m_l## states that the 3s state can transition into. I suspect that I have actually calculated the transition rate for one photon mode instead of the three photon modes, but I cannot see where specifically I am going wrong.

I am using the method that Zettili uses to obtain the ##2p\to 1s## transition rate in one of his solved problems (of which I have attached). He does it in about a page, and goes through this exact same process. In the end, he derives the correct transition rate.

As a remark, he also introduces (for the ##2p\to 1s## case) the following formula $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\frac{1}{3}\sum_{m_{l}=-1}^{1}\vert\langle2,1,m_{l}\vert\boldsymbol{r}\vert1,0,0\rangle\vert^2$$ where he explicitly sums over the possible ##m_{l}## that the ##2p## state can have and tags along a ##\frac{1}{3}## factor to 'average over the various transitions'. Of course in my case, I would need to replace the initial and final states to apply it. Is the 'averaging' referring to the three ##m_l## states corresponding with ##2p##?

Doing a bit of further digging, I have found that some sources call this the 'Einstein A Coefficient' and state the need to average over the initial degenerate states and sum over the final degenerate states. This would explain the one-third factor from Zettili's workings (##2p## is threefold degenerate and ##1s## is nondegenerate), and it would also explain why I am off by a factor of three (##3s## is nondegenerate but a sum must be done over the three ##2p## degeneracies).
 

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flyusx said:
Doing a bit of further digging, I have found that some sources call this the 'Einstein A Coefficient' and state the need to average over the initial degenerate states and sum over the final degenerate states. This would explain the one-third factor from Zettili's workings (##2p## is threefold degenerate and ##1s## is nondegenerate), and it would also explain why I am off by a factor of three (##3s## is nondegenerate but a sum must be done over the three ##2p## degeneracies).
Sounds right to me.
 
TSny said:
Sounds right to me.
Thanks!
I'm still not entirely sure why this is needed since I summed over ##m_l## already in resolving the Kronecker deltas, and because the solved problem doesn't include an overall ##\frac{1}{3}## factor when using the dipole expansion (epsilon method). I'll keep experimenting and see what I find.
 
Consider redoing the radial integral. Just by looking at it you can see that it's like an expectation value of ##r## and must be equal to some constant times the Bohr radius ##a_0.## Your expression has ##a_0^2## which is dimensionally incorrect. If you made a mistake there, it is likely that you made a mistake somewhere else.
 
flyusx said:
Thanks!
I'm still not entirely sure why this is needed since I summed over ##m_l## already in resolving the Kronecker deltas, and because the solved problem doesn't include an overall ##\frac{1}{3}## factor when using the dipole expansion (epsilon method). I'll keep experimenting and see what I find.
I think this might be part of the problem: In calculating the transition rate, you should include a sum over the final polarization states if you are counting photons regardless of their polarization. In this case, you get (similar to Zetili) $$W_{i\to f}=\frac{4\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}\right\vert^{2}=\frac{4e^{2}\omega_{f\to i}^{3}}{3\hbar c^{3}}\left\vert\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert \boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle\right\vert^{2}$$ where the matrix element is ##\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert \boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle## instead of your ##\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot \boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle##. That is, ##\boldsymbol{r}## replaces your ##\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot \boldsymbol{r}##.

Check that $$\boldsymbol{r}_{\text{uv}} = \boldsymbol-\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}-Y_{1,-1}\right)\boldsymbol{e_x} +i\sqrt{\frac{2\pi}{3}}\left(Y_{1,1}+Y_{1,-1}\right)\boldsymbol{e_y}+\sqrt{\frac{4\pi}{3}}Y_{1,0}\boldsymbol{e_z}$$ where ##\boldsymbol{e_x}, \boldsymbol{e_y}##, and ##\boldsymbol{e_z}## are unit vectors along the x, y, and z axes. Proceed similarly to what you did in your first post.
 
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kuruman said:
Consider redoing the radial integral. Just by looking at it you can see that it's like an expectation value of ##r## and must be equal to some constant times the Bohr radius ##a_0.## Your expression has ##a_0^2## which is dimensionally incorrect. If you made a mistake there, it is likely that you made a mistake somewhere else.
I see that I did make a typo, for which I listed the radial integral as having the value of its square. I've reworked it from scratch, and it appears that aside from accidentally dropping the squared magnitude on the integral, the rest of the algebra works out (probably since the radial integral needed to be squared anyways).
TSny said:
where the matrix element is ##\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert \boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle## instead of your ##\left\langle2,1,m_l\vert\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot \boldsymbol{r}\vert3,0,0\right\rangle##. That is, ##\boldsymbol{r}## replaces your ##\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot \boldsymbol{r}##.
After thinking and reading about it some more yesterday, I was about to write the same thing. In the meat of the chapter, Zettili's derivation includes an explicit resolution of ##\vert\boldsymbol{\epsilon}\cdot\boldsymbol{r}\vert## in terms of ##\left\vert\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}\right\vert##. In doing so, he sums over photon polarisations and computes an integral over the photon's ##k##-space coordinates to yield the equation I started with. He also explicitly states $$\boldsymbol{d}_{f\to i}=\left\langle\psi_{f}\vert-e\boldsymbol{r}\vert\psi_{i}\right\rangle$$ Reworking with this in mind and averaging over initial/summing over final states, I got the correct result.

I'd like to give my thanks to both of you!
 
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