Calculating Einstein Equation from Lagrangian Eqn

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Einstein equation from a given Lagrangian for a 3D system using the Euler-Lagrange procedure. The user expresses difficulty in eliminating the Ricci scalar from their calculations, despite applying the correct techniques and formulas. They derive an equation that includes unwanted terms, particularly in relation to the potential term, and seek clarification on calculating the energy-momentum tensor to resolve this issue. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in manipulating the equations and the need for precise handling of indices and terms. Overall, the user is looking for guidance on correcting their approach to achieve the desired form of the Einstein equation.
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I have a 3d system with Lagrangian e_3^{-1} L_3 = -\frac{1}{2} R_3 + \delta_{ab} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b + \frac{1}{2H} V(q)

From this I want to calculate the Einstein equation by performing the Euler-Lagrange procedure. First of all, I move the 3d dreibein to the RHS and then I apply the E-L eqns. Using that \frac{\partial e_3}{\partial g^{\mu \nu}} = \frac{1}{2} e_3 g_{\mu \nu}, I see that

\frac{\partial}{\partial g^{\mu \nu}} (e_3 R_3) = e_3 R_{\mu \nu} + \frac{1}{2} e_3 R

Now, I don't want a Ricci scalar in the answer and I am unsure how to get rid of it. I tried looking at the trace of the Einstein equation R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{2} R g_{\mu \nu} = T_{\mu \nu} \Rightarrow R-\frac{3}{2} R = T \Rightarrow -\frac{1}{2} R =T and so if I can work out T then I can avoid a Ricci scalar being in the answer but I don't know how to calculate T let alone its trace.

Thanks.
 
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Yeah that's what I did and I'm fairly sure the technique is correct and I just cannot see the mistake that's giving me the wrong number. The Einstein eqn should be -\frac{1}{2} R_{\mu \nu} + \delta_{ab} \partial_\mu q^a \partial_\nu q^b + \frac{1}{2H} g_{\mu \nu} V(q)=0

Now when I vary with respect to g^{\mu \nu} I get \frac{\partial L}{\partial g^{\mu \nu}} = - \frac{1}{2} e_3R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{4} e_3 R_3 + e_3 \delta_{ab} \partial_\mu q^a \partial_\nu q^b + \frac{1}{2} e_3 g_{\mu \nu} \delta_{ab} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b + \frac{1}{4H} g_{\mu \nu} V(q)

and \frac{\partial L}{\partial \partial_\lambda g^{\mu \nu}}=0.

The E-L eqn is - \frac{1}{2} e_3R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{4} e_3 R_3 + e_3 \delta_{ab} \partial_\mu q^a \partial_\nu q^b + \frac{1}{2} e_3 g_{\mu \nu} \delta_{ab} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b + \frac{1}{4H} g_{\mu \nu} V(q)=0

Then I take the trace of the resulting E-L eqn to see -\frac{5}{4} e_3 R_3 + \frac{5}{2} \delta_{ab} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b + \frac{3}{4H} e_3 V(q)=0 Rearranging we find -\frac{1}{4} e_3 g_{\mu \nu}R_3 = -\frac{1}{2} e_3 \delta_{ab} g_{\mu \nu} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b -\frac{3}{20H} e_{3} g_{\mu \nu} V(q) If I substitute this into the original E-L eqn to try and get rid of the -\frac{1}{4} e_3 g_{\mu \nu} R term, all the unwanted terms cancel but I have the wrong factor in front of the potential term. Any ideas? Thanks.
 
latentcorpse said:
I have a 3d system with Lagrangian e_3^{-1} L_3 = -\frac{1}{2} R_3 + \delta_{ab} \partial_\rho q^a \partial^\rho q^b + \frac{1}{2H} V(q)

From this I want to calculate the Einstein equation by performing the Euler-Lagrange procedure. First of all, I move the 3d dreibein to the RHS and then I apply the E-L eqns. Using that \frac{\partial e_3}{\partial g^{\mu \nu}} = \frac{1}{2} e_3 g_{\mu \nu}, I see that

\frac{\partial}{\partial g^{\mu \nu}} (e_3 R_3) = e_3 R_{\mu \nu} + \frac{1}{2} e_3 R
This can't be right, the indices do not match.

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