Calculating Energy for Full Sphere of Radius R

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The problem involves calculating the energy required to construct a full sphere of radius R with a density that varies linearly with radius, expressed as a*r. Participants are exploring the implications of this varying density on the calculations involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to use an integral approach based on the concept of work done against a force, but questions the validity of their calculations. Some participants suggest that the integration must account for the varying density and question the assumptions made about the force involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the nature of the force involved in the work being calculated, with some guidance offered regarding the integration of varying density.

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Participants note that the problem does not clearly specify whether the work is done against an electric field or a gravitational field, leading to further questions about the setup and assumptions of the problem.

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Homework Statement



hello

the question is :
what is the energy needed to build a full sphere, radii R, and with density a*r

The Attempt at a Solution



i did it this way, i assum that i have a little ball radii r, and i want to bring an intificimal sphere width dr, and use W=Kq1dq2\r

so:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

and i intigrate it from 0 to R, and my solution equals to (4a^2PIR^7)\21

and it is not as the solution says...

am i doing it right?

thanks
 
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Hi en.yokhai! :smile:

(have a pi: π and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
en.yokhai said:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

I don't think you can use 4/3 πr3 for q1

the density varies, so you have to integrate (over spherical shells) to find the mass. :wink:
 
en.yokhai said:

Homework Statement



hello

the question is :
what is the energy needed to build a full sphere, radii R, and with density a*r

The Attempt at a Solution



i did it this way, i assum that i have a little ball radii r, and i want to bring an intificimal sphere width dr, and use W=Kq1dq2\r

so:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

and i intigrate it from 0 to R, and my solution equals to (4a^2PIR^7)\21

and it is not as the solution says...

am i doing it right?

thanks

Sorry for being dense guys (my density varies somewhat too...). What is the force that this work is being done against? Electric field? Gravitational field? I don't quite get it from the problem as stated so far.
 
electric field, so the mass is not important...the charge is,namely the density
 

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