Calculating Entropy for 26 Particles in Box

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The discussion revolves around calculating the entropy of a system containing 52 distinguishable particles divided between two equal-volume cells in a box. The original poster is specifically interested in the configuration where 26 particles are in the left side of the box, with each particle having access to 1000 sub-states.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the binomial distribution to determine the number of ways to arrange 26 particles in one half of the box and considers the implications of sub-states for calculating total microstates. Participants question the completeness of this approach and the reasoning behind the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the original poster's reasoning and exploring the implications of including both sides of the box in the entropy calculation. There is a recognition of a potential miscalculation regarding the factors involved in the natural logarithm of the total microstates.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of an online homework assignment that provides real-time feedback, which influences their understanding of correctness in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


52 distinguishable particles have been in a box long enough to reach equilibrium. The box is divided into two equal-volume cells. Let's say that there are 103 sub-states (s1 through s1000) available to each particle on each side, regardless of how many other particles are around. (In a more realistic case that number would be much greater and depend on the temperature, but our key results would not change.) So a microstate is specified by giving the position (left half or right half) of every particle and its sub-state within this half.

Edit: forgot to add the question

What is the entropy of this configuration? (26 particles in left side of box)

Homework Equations


1. Use the binomial distribution to find the number of possibilities 26 particles are in the left side of the box
2. ln(omega) for entropy, where omega is the distribution size (ie the number of accessible microstates)

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the binomial formula 52 choose 26 yields 495918532948104 possibilities for 26 particles to be in the left side of the box. Among those 26 particles, they each have an additional 1000 different states, which means there are a total of 100026 different states on the left side for a particular combination.

Therefore, the total number of microstates is (52 choose 26) * 100026. Taking the natural log of that yields 213.439, which isn't the entropy of this particular configuration.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks all!
 
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Hello Fruit,

What about the other side of the divider ?

(and how do you know your answer isn't right ?)
 
Hi BvU,

I know my answer isn't right because it's an online homework assignment with real time feedback.

If I consider the right side as well and add it on top of the left side, then I should have my original answer doubled. But that is still wrong.
 
Fruitbraker said:
then I should have my original answer doubled
No. Do you understand why not ?
 
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Aha! I had the right idea.

There are 52 choose 26 different combinations for 26 particles to be in the left side. Then there are 100026 for both sides of box. Apparently I was a factor of 100026 off in the natural log. Thanks!
 
Well done. The factor 495918532948104 only appears once.
 

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