Calculating Force from Moving Air: Is it Possible?

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The discussion centers on calculating the force of air resistance, emphasizing that the relative speed between an object and the air is crucial. The force can be approximated as f = -bv or f = bv², depending on the object's characteristics, but no simple formula exists due to the complexity of airflow around different shapes. Aerodynamics and hydrodynamics texts are recommended for deeper understanding, as the calculations involve significant mathematics. The relationship between pressure and force is clarified, noting that force can be derived by multiplying pressure by the surface area. Further research into these concepts is advised for accurate calculations.
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is there a way to calculate this?
 
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"Air coming at you" or "you coming at air", that's the same thing. Only the relative speed of you to the air is what matters in determining the force.

Usually, it is reasonable to assume the force of friction with the air is of the form f = -bv, where b is a constant depending on the shape of the body which must be determined experimentally.

Now quoting Symon, pp.36:

"However, for small heavy bodies [...], a better approximation may be f = bv²."
 
Obviously yes, but from the way your question is worded you are looking for a simple formula. There is none. The force air exerts on an object is extremely dependant on the way air flows around it. That means the shape of the object is very important. If you're really interested, find some good texts on aerodynamics (and/or hydrodynamics). Be warned, some serious math is involved.
 
Well, in ideal terms, the air resistance is proportional to the cross-sectional area of the object and the square of the speed.
 
If you want to generalize and treat the object as a flat plate in a fluid stream you can calculate the dynamic head, as in P_D = \frac{1}{2}\rho V^2. Assuming your units are correct, that will give you a pressure which can be used to calculate the force over the entire area.
 
k thanks everyone..guess I am going to have to do some research huh.

ah and just a quick question..to go from pressure to force i'd just divide the pressure by how big the surface is correct? (since pressure is usually force exterted / area)
 
I do not have a good working knowledge of physics yet. I tried to piece this together but after researching this, I couldn’t figure out the correct laws of physics to combine to develop a formula to answer this question. Ex. 1 - A moving object impacts a static object at a constant velocity. Ex. 2 - A moving object impacts a static object at the same velocity but is accelerating at the moment of impact. Assuming the mass of the objects is the same and the velocity at the moment of impact...

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