Calculating forces and torque on a moving dipole in non-uniform magnetic field

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This discussion focuses on calculating the net force and torque on a moving electric dipole in a non-uniform magnetic field. The relevant equations include the force equation \(\mathbf{F} = q \mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}\) and the torque equation \(\mathbf{\tau} = \mathbf{r} \times \mathbf{F}\). The participants analyze the effects of the magnetic field's gradient and the dipole's size, concluding that the force includes an additional term compared to the uniform case, while the torque remains consistent with the uniform magnetic field scenario. The importance of using the center of mass for calculations is emphasized.

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Homework Statement


I want to determine the net force and torqe on a moving electric dipole in non-uniform magnetic field.
I suspect I should take some kind of a limit, but I'm not sure how to do so.
Please help, I'd really like to understand this.

Homework Equations


##\mathbf{F} = q \mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}, \quad \mathbf{\tau} = \mathbf{r} \times \mathbf{F}, \quad \mathbf{p} = q \mathbf{d}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I wrote the velocities as the average velocity ##\mathbf{v} = (\mathbf{v}_1+\mathbf{v}_2)/2## plus the difference (index 1 indicates the positive charge and 2 the negative charge):
$$\mathbf{F} = q\mathbf{v}_1 \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) - q\mathbf{v}_2 \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})$$
So what I got in the end was:
$$\mathbf{F} = q \mathbf{v} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) - \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})) + \frac{q}{2} \dot{\mathbf{p}} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) + \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}))$$
I'm stuck here and I'm not sure how to get a 'nicer' form that would only contain ##\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})##.

Regarding the torque:
$$\mathbf{\tau} = \frac{\mathbf{d}}{2} \times \mathbf{F}_1 - \frac{\mathbf{d}}{2} \times \mathbf{F}_2$$
Rearraging a bit I got:
$$\mathbf{\tau} = \frac{\mathbf{p}}{2} \times (\mathbf{v}_1 \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) + \mathbf{v}_2 \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}))$$
From here on I have the same problem as before.

If you can help me with a hint or two I'll be really grateful.
 
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Hello Gertrude, :welcome:

Did you work out the case for the homogeneous ##\mathbf B## field already ?
An electric dipole generally has a small size ##\mathbf d## so I expect the derivative of ##\mathbf B## to appear for the non-homogeneous case (i.e. the limit ##\mathbf d \downarrow 0## seems useful to me.

I would also work with the center of the dipole, not with one of the charges as central point.
 
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Hello, thanks for answering!

As a matter of fact I did compute a net force and torque in uniform magnetic field before. I got:
$$ \mathbf{F} = \dot{\mathbf{p}} \times \mathbf{B}, \quad \mathbf{\tau} = \mathbf{p} \times (\mathbf{v}_C \times \mathbf{B})$$
with ##\mathbf{v}_C## being the velocity of the center of mass ##\mathbf{r}_C = (\mathbf{r}_1 + \mathbf{r}_2)/2##.

Now for the non-uniform case: I can see that in the first summand of the force, I get a derivative (in three dimensions, thus a gradient in the direction of orientation):
$$q \mathbf{v} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) - \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})) = q \mathbf{v} d \times \frac{(\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) - \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}))}{p/q} => p \mathbf{v} \times (\hat{\mathbf{d}} \cdot \nabla) \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})$$
and in the second summand I get:
$$\frac{q}{2} \dot{\mathbf{p}} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) + \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})) => q \dot{\mathbf{p}} \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})$$
I believe ##\mathbf{v}## is the translation velocity of the center of mass. By the way, is it mathematically correct to take such limits as I did (especially the second term, where I had a sum of the fields)?
So I see the force gets one extra term comparing to the uniform case, which seems logical.

In computing the torque I did something similar:
$$\frac{\mathbf{p}}{2} \times (\mathbf{v} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) + \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})) + \frac{\dot{\mathbf{p}}}{2q} \times (\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r} + \mathbf{p}/q) - \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}))) =>$$
$$=> \frac{\mathbf{p}}{2} \times (2\mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}) + \frac{d}{2q} \dot{\mathbf{p}} \times (\hat{\mathbf{d}} \cdot \nabla) \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}))$$
Since ##\dot{\mathbf{p}} = q(\mathbf{v}_1- \mathbf{v}_2)## only changes direction, it's always perpendicular on ##\hat{\mathbf{d}}## (and ##\mathbf{p}##) and thus the second term is zero.
So the torque is the same as in uniform case? I didn't expect that.

Am I on the right path of thinking?
 
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I should think so (but haven't time to scrutinize all the steps).
Turns out someone did a lot of work already; perhaps this article is a nice starting point ... complicated enough already without inhomogeneity (and they work in gaussian units, too. That's reasonable but an extra complication nevertheless o_O ). Your ## \mathbf{\tau} = \mathbf{p} \times (\mathbf{v}_C \times \mathbf{B}))## looks like their (19a) .
 
I'll surely take a look at that, thank you for your time.
 

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