Calculating Higher Order Derivatives of a Complex Function

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The discussion revolves around calculating the 2011th derivative of the function f(x) = x / (1 - (x^2))^2 at the point x = 0. Participants explore various methods to approach this problem, including direct differentiation and series expansion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting by taking the first few derivatives of the function to identify a pattern.
  • Another participant proposes constructing the Taylor series expansion as a potentially more effective method than manual differentiation.
  • A participant mentions deriving a series representation of the function using the geometric series, leading to a coefficient related to the 2011th derivative.
  • There is a correction regarding the exponent needed to obtain the coefficient for x^2011 in the series expansion.
  • A later reply introduces a differentiation approach related to the function's representation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to find the 2011th derivative, with multiple approaches being discussed and some corrections made regarding the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the patterns in the derivatives and the relationship between the Taylor series and the geometric series, indicating potential limitations in their understanding or assumptions about the function's behavior.

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Hi everyone,

I came across this problem that I can't solve, but I'm sure there's a simple elegant solution.

Let [itex]f(x) = \frac{x}{(1-(x^2))^2}[/itex].

Find [itex]f^{2011}(0)[/itex].
 
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CantorSet said:
Hi everyone,

I came across this problem that I can't solve, but I'm sure there's a simple elegant solution.

Let [itex]f(x) = \frac{x}{(1-(x^2))^2}[/itex].

Find [itex]f^{2011}(0)[/itex].

Begin by taking the first few derivatives and hope to see a pattern emerging. So, what are the first, second, third, etc. derivatives?
 
I think you'll have better luck trying to construct the Taylor series expansion than trying to compute the derivatives manually. By Taylor's theorem, the coefficient of x^2011 will be f^(2011)(0)/2011!, so multiply it by 2011! to get your answer.
 
Thanks for responding everyone.

Micromass, I got up to the 3rd derivative but I unfortunately did not see any nice pattern. :(

Citan Uzuki, I see what you mean. So I basically got that

[itex]\frac{x}{(1-(x^2))} = \sum_{n=1} n x^{2n-1}[/itex]

by playing around with the geometric series. Now, you're saying that this is also the Taylor Series expansion? In which case, the answer I get is 1005 * 2011!

See, I thought of this earlier, but I didn't realize that every nice function has a unique power series expansion. That is, the Taylor Series is also the geometric series.
 
Yep, that's the approach exactly! Just one thing - for the exponent to be 2011, n must be 1006, not 1005. But otherwise, you got it exactly right.
 
Also x/(1-x^2)^2 = (1/2)(d/dx)(1/(1-x^2))
 

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