Calculating Induced Current in a Circular Coil with Time-Varying Magnetic Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the induced current in a circular coil subjected to a time-varying magnetic field. The problem involves understanding the relationships between the coil's dimensions, resistivity, and the induced electromotive force (emf).

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definitions of the diameters C and d, questioning their roles in the equations for resistance and area. There is an attempt to clarify which diameter corresponds to the coil and which to the individual loops. Some participants express confusion over the problem's wording and its implications for the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the physical dimensions and the equations used. There is a recognition of the need to relate the equations to the specific dimensions of the problem, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the diameters in calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the diameters and their respective roles in the calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the equations accurately reflect the physical setup described.

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Homework Statement



A circular coil has N equal loops with diameter C. Each loop has resistivity η and diameter d.

There is a field on the central axis of B(t) = B_0 sin(ωt).

Find the induced current (ignoring other fields)

Homework Equations



emf = -d/dt * flux(t)
i = emf/R
R = η*l/A

The Attempt at a Solution



emf total = N * -d/dt ∫B dot dA = N * BA = N * B(t) * (pi*(C/2)^2)

R = η * (2*pi*d/2)/ (pi*(d/2)^2)

i = emf /R

I know I am doing something wrong and missing something, could somebody please tell me where I am going astray?

Thanks
 
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In expanding ##R=\eta L/A## You used the diameter d in calculation for both L and A.

##L=\pi D## in this equation, D is the diameter of what?
##A=\pi D^2\!\!/4## in this equation, D is the diameter of what?

You are given two diameters labelled C and d. Which is which?
 
Simon Bridge said:
In expanding ##R=\eta L/A## You used the diameter d in calculation for both L and A.

##L=\pi D## in this equation, D is the diameter of what?
##A=\pi D^2\!\!/4## in this equation, D is the diameter of what?

You are given two diameters labelled C and d. Which is which?

C is the diameter of the coil and d is the diameter of the individual loops. I guess the equation for the length should use d while the equation for area should use C. For some reason I thought these would be equal.
 
C is the diameter of the coil and d is the diameter of the individual loops. I guess the equation for the length should use d while the equation for area should use C. For some reason I thought these would be equal.
I think the description is a little vague on this point to be honest - I was hoping it was consistent with other work you've done so you would know better than me by context.

Usually "coil diameter" is the diameter of the coil, which would be the same as the diameter of each loop that makes up the coil - unless we are talking about a toroidal coil perhaps. So the coil diameter and the loop diameter would be the same thing. For some reason the problem statement gives them different labels ... why would this be, unless the two labels are meant to refer to different things?

But I asked [strike]two[/strike] three questions and you have only answered one.
The D in the equation for L is different from the D in the equation for A.
You need to relate the equations to the physical dimensions of the problem.
 
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It says more specifically that "each loop is made of a conductor with resistivity eta and conductor diameter d"
 
ma18 said:
It says more specifically that "each loop is made of a conductor with resistivity eta and conductor diameter d"
... that's better.
So do you know how to finish the problem now?

You should also check the rest of your working to see if you have made similar assumptions.
 
I think so, because A is the cross-sectional area then d would be used whereas as L is the length of the whole wire C would be used.
 
Well done :)
 

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