Calculating Length of a Cable Between Poles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the length of a cable hanging between two poles, specifically using a mathematical model for the cable's height and addressing the implications of its weight. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a function for the height of the cable, h(x), and seeks to find the length of the curve using the derivative h'(x) and integration.
  • Another participant clarifies the integration process, suggesting the limits of integration should be from -37/2 to 37/2 based on the defined variable x.
  • A later reply questions the validity of obtaining an imaginary number from the integration and seeks clarification on the relevance of the cable's weight in the calculations.
  • Another participant corrects the limits of integration, stating that since x represents a distance, it should be non-negative, and suggests integrating from 0 to 37/2 instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct limits of integration and the interpretation of the height function, leading to unresolved questions about the imaginary result and the weight's relevance.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential misunderstanding regarding the definition of the height function for negative values of x, which may affect the integration process. The implications of the cable's weight in relation to the length calculation remain unclear.

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A cable hangs between two poles of equal height and 37 feet apart.
At a point on the ground directly under the cable and
x feet from the point on the ground halfway between the poles
the height of the cable in feet is
h(x)=10 +(0.4)( x^{1.5})
The cable weighs 15.1 pounds per linear foot.
Find the weight of the cable.


so i find h'(x) i square it and add one to find the length of the curve
i.e
(1+ h'(x)^2 ) ^(1/2)

my question is is that right? and what are the limits of integration??


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blumfeld0 said:
A cable hangs between two poles of equal height and 37 feet apart.
At a point on the ground directly under the cable and
x feet from the point on the ground halfway between the poles
the height of the cable in feet is
h(x)=10 +(0.4)( x^{1.5})
The cable weighs 15.1 pounds per linear foot.
Find the weight of the cable.


so i find h'(x) i square it and add one to find the length of the curve
i.e
(1+ h'(x)^2 ) ^(1/2)

my question is is that right? and what are the limits of integration??

blumfeld0
Well, more correctly "i find h'(x) i square it and add one" , take the square root and integrate "to find the length of the curve" :approve:

Since your variable, x, is the "from the point on the ground halfway between the poles", x= 0 there. At one pole x= -37/2 and at the other x= 37/2. Integrate with respect to x from -37/2 to 37/2.
 
ok so i integrate (1 + h'(x)^2 )^(1/2) with repect to x from -37/2 to 37/2
i use mathematica and i get 39.25+ 24.9 i

where "i" is imaginary
why do i get an imaginary answer??also what does the 15.1 pounds per linear foot have to do with it?

thanks
 
Ah! Misinterpretation on my part. Since x is a distance it is always positive. The height "h(x)=10 +(0.4)( x^{1.5})" isn't even defined for x negative. Integrate from 0 to 37/2 to find the length of 1/2 and then double.
 

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