Calculating Mass, Force, and Acceleration of a Car

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass, net force, and acceleration of a car based on the forces acting on it, including the forces exerted by the wheels on the road, the driving force, and frictional resistance. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Participants explore how to calculate the net force by considering the forces acting on the car, questioning whether to include the force of the tires on the road in their calculations. There is discussion about the relationship between the driving force and frictional resistance.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the calculations and the assumptions regarding the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the net force calculation, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is a mention of the entire weight of the car being supported by the wheels, which raises questions about how this impacts the calculations for mass and net force. Participants are also considering the implications of the forces acting in different directions.

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Each of the four wheels of a car pushes on the road with a force of 4.0 x 10³ N [down]. The driving force on the car is 8.0 x 10³ N [W]. The frictional resistance on the car is 6.0 x 10³ N [E]. Calculate the following:
(a) mass of the car
(b) net force on the car
(c) car's acceleration

For Fnet, would u also add 4(4.0 x 10³ N [up]) to the rest of vectors to cancel out the force all the tires have on the road? Or:
8.0 x 10³ N [W] + 6.0 x 10³ N [E]= 2.0 x 10³ N [W]

2.0 x 10³ N [W] + 4(4.0 x 10³ N [down])= Fnet
?!

I just did all that on my phone.. I'm desperate for some help :(
 
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xdeanna said:
Each of the four wheels of a car pushes on the road with a force of 4.0 x 10³ N [down]. The driving force on the car is 8.0 x 10³ N [W]. The frictional resistance on the car is 6.0 x 10³ N [E]. Calculate the following:
(a) mass of the car
(b) net force on the car
(c) car's acceleration

For Fnet, would u also add 4(4.0 x 10³ N [up]) to the rest of vectors to cancel out the force all the tires have on the road? Or:
8.0 x 10³ N [W] + 6.0 x 10³ N [E]= 2.0 x 10³ N [W]

2.0 x 10³ N [W] + 4(4.0 x 10³ N [down])= Fnet
?!

I just did all that on my phone.. I'm desperate for some help :(

I am led to believe that the entire mass of the car is supported by the wheels alone.

So yes the entire weight is 4(4x103) N, so the mass of the car is ?
 


rock.freak667 said:
I am led to believe that the entire mass of the car is supported by the wheels alone.

So yes the entire weight is 4(4x103) N, so the mass of the car is ?

m= 1.6 x 104 N

but what about Fnet
 


xdeanna said:
m= 1.6 x 104 N

but what about Fnet

There is a driving force and a resistance to the driving force, so what should be the net force between these two?
 


rock.freak667 said:
There is a driving force and a resistance to the driving force, so what should be the net force between these two?

so i don't have to worry about the force of the tires on the road?

Fnet=8.0 x 10³ N [W] + 6.0 x 10³ N [E]
Fnet= 2.0 x 10³ N [W]
 


xdeanna said:
so i don't have to worry about the force of the tires on the road?

Fnet=8.0 x 10³ N [W] - 6.0 x 10³ N [E]
Fnet= 2.0 x 10³ N [W]

you mean negative here


But yes that should be correct.
 

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