Calculating mechanical efficiancy of an axial fan

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating the mechanical efficiency of an axial fan for an engineering project. Participants explore various methods to determine the fan's efficiency based on power consumption and airflow, while also considering different definitions and measurements of efficiency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the equation P=1/2(rho)A(v^3) to calculate the power in the air moved by the fan, but expresses uncertainty about its effectiveness and mentions potential issues with calculating velocity from cfm.
  • Another participant points out that the kinetic energy of the air is not the only energy to consider, emphasizing the importance of including pressure energy in efficiency calculations and providing a formula involving static pressure.
  • A different participant raises concerns about the vagueness of the term "efficiency," noting that it can have multiple interpretations and suggesting the need for a consistent definition relevant to performance metrics.
  • One participant inquires about methods to measure the static pressure of the fan and seeks alternative approaches to improve fan performance.
  • Another suggestion involves using the fan output to power a turbine and measuring voltage drop to assess efficiency, while cautioning against fixating solely on efficiency metrics and recommending airflow measurement instead.
  • A participant mentions that polishing the blades may be a straightforward method to enhance fan efficiency and references ASME PTC 11 for testing axial flow fans.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to define and measure efficiency, with no consensus on a single method or approach. Multiple competing ideas and suggestions remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in definitions and measurements, indicating that assumptions about efficiency may vary based on context and application. There are unresolved questions about the best methods for measuring static pressure and calculating efficiency.

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We are trying to improve the efficiency of a fan for an engineering project. However, we first need to figure out what the efficiency of the fan is now.

Since we know how many watts the fans motor is using at each setting, we figured we could just find how much power is in the air the fan is moving using P=1/2(rho)A(v^3), however this didn't work(maybe we're just all really bad at math?). It could be because we tried to calculate velocity based on cfm.

What is the best way for us to calculate the efficiency of the fan? We know how much power the motor is using and how many cfm of air it is moving. Thank you
 
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The kinetic energy of the air is not the only energy: that equation doesn't capture the pressure energy of the air. A simple thumb-rule equation which you can derive from the definition of work (w=f*d) is HP= SP*CFM/(6356*eff)

...Where SP is the total static pressure generated by the fan.
 
Efficiency is pretty vague. Unfortunately that "can" mean different things to different people. At my work, we have a script that will spit out three different efficiency numbers for a turbine stage. Some are based on work, some torque, some whatever whatever.

The important thing is to find a parameter or something you feel important to performance and make sure you just keep using the same definition.
 
How can we measure the static pressure of the fan?

What is another way we could go about doing this project. Basically, we have to make the fan do more work using the same power or the same work using less power.

Thanks
 
If you could "pipe" the fan output into a turbine that creates electricity, you could measure the drop in voltage to determine an efficiency. Of course, you would need the efficiency of the downstream turbine.

Conversely, don't be stuck on this idea of an efficiency. The purpose of a fan is to move air, so measure airflow.
 
The simplest way of increasing a fan's efficiency is to polish the blades.
ASME PTC 11 will tell you how to test axial flow fans.
 

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