Calculating Moles of Pain Killer/H+ with Titration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moles of a monoprotic acid (pain killer) in a titration experiment involving NaOH. Participants explore the relationship between the moles of NaOH used and the moles of the acid, as well as the implications for determining the moles of hydrogen ions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated the moles of NaOH used in the titration and assumed it would equal the moles of the pain killer due to a 1-1 mole ratio.
  • The same participant expressed uncertainty about the relationship between the moles of hydrogen ions and the moles of NaOH, questioning whether the moles of hydrogen ions would equal the moles of the pain killer.
  • Another participant pointed out the need to distinguish between the entire pain killer sample and the active monoprotic acid component being titrated, suggesting that only a fraction of the sample is the target acid.
  • A later reply reiterated the original problem statement, affirming that the pain killer is indeed a monoprotic acid and questioning the initial participant's confusion regarding the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the relationship between the moles of NaOH, the moles of the pain killer, and the moles of hydrogen ions. Disagreement exists on the understanding of the components of the pain killer sample.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the composition of the pain killer sample and the implications for the calculations. There is also an unresolved discussion about the clarity of the relationship between the moles of acid and the moles of base in the titration.

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Homework Statement



Assuming the acid (pain killer) is monoprotic, calculate the moles of pain killer/hydrogen ion in a sample of an unknown pain killer using a titration:

NaOH was added to a pain killer solution

m[pain killer]=0.40g dissolved in 50 mL of distilled water
[NaOH]= 0.15 mol/L
v(NaOH)= 0.0036 L

Homework Equations



C1V1=C2V2

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the moles of pain killer by assuming that the moles of NaOH used would be equal to the moles of pain killer used since it's a 1-1 mole ratio. I found the moles of NaOH to be 5.4 x 10^-4 mol. I could further figure out the concentration of acid solution by dividing moles by volume of distilled water but, I don't know if that would help me.

It's really the moles of hydrogen ion that I can't get. I thought that the moles of H+ would be equal to the moles of OH in the NaOH solution which would mean that the moles of hydrogen would be equal to the moles of NaOH (since it's a strong base) but, that would mean that the moles of pain killer=moles of hydrogen ion in the pain killer which wouldn't make sense to me.

All that said, I could really use some guidance on this as to what I've don't correctly and where I went wrong, as well as where to go from here. Thanks!
 
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You need to distinguish between the tablet-or-capsule and the active monoprotic acid ingredient(the componant which you titrated). You are only titrating the ACID in the sample; the target acid is only a fraction of the entire sample.
 
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rowkem said:

Homework Statement



Assuming the acid (pain killer) is monoprotic, calculate the moles of pain killer/hydrogen ion in a sample of an unknown pain killer using a titration:

NaOH was added to a pain killer solution

m[pain killer]=0.40g dissolved in 50 mL of distilled water
[NaOH]= 0.15 mol/L
v(NaOH)= 0.0036 L

Homework Equations



C1V1=C2V2

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the moles of pain killer by assuming that the moles of NaOH used would be equal to the moles of pain killer used since it's a 1-1 mole ratio. I found the moles of NaOH to be 5.4 x 10^-4 mol. I could further figure out the concentration of acid solution by dividing moles by volume of distilled water but, I don't know if that would help me.

It's really the moles of hydrogen ion that I can't get. I thought that the moles of H+ would be equal to the moles of OH in the NaOH solution which would mean that the moles of hydrogen would be equal to the moles of NaOH (since it's a strong base) but, that would mean that the moles of pain killer=moles of hydrogen ion in the pain killer which wouldn't make sense to me.

That's the answer. Why doesn't that make sense to you? The painkiller is a monoprotic acid, yes?

here it is again in the statement of your problem...
...calculate the moles of pain killer/hydrogen ion in a sample of an unknown pain killer using a titration...
 

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