Calculating Momentum & Velocity After Football Collision

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the collision of two football players, focusing on the calculation of total momentum and final velocity after the collision, as well as the angle between the players' initial and final directions.

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  • Participants discuss calculating total momentum for each player and the overall momentum after the collision. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of momentum formulas and the use of trigonometric functions to find angles.

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Some participants have offered calculations and insights into the momentum values, while others express confusion regarding the trigonometric relationships and the interpretation of results. There is an ongoing exploration of how to derive the angle from the momentum values.

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Homework Statement



Two football players collide at an angle of 90 degree and stick together after the collision. Before the collision, player A (m= 125kg) had a speed of 4m/s and player B (m=100kg) had a speed of 5m/s.

1)Calculate the total momentum of the players and the final velocity they had after the collision.


2)Calculate the angle a between the direction player A had before and after the collision. (hint: use tan a=Pa/Pb ).

Homework Equations



I believe:

a^2 + b^2 = c^2

p=m/v

v=v/m

The Attempt at a Solution



To find total momentum, I first calculated momentum for each player:

Player A = 125kg divided by 4m/s = 31.25 kg. m/s
Player B = 100kg divided by 5m/s = 20 kg. m/s

Pt^2 = (20)^2 + (31.25)^2 = 400 + 977 = +/- 37.

To find vf = p/m = 37/125+100 (total mass) = 0.16m/s.

What do you guys think?
 
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Hello!
Thank you for helping but it´s not completely clear to me.
I calculated pt = 1000 but I am just confused with how I am going to find cos(theta) and sin(theta).

For cos= c/b and sin=a/c, but how do I get the values for a, b and c?
Would A equal momentum for player A = 500, for instance?

I am sorry but I am still confused about how I am going to calculate this.
 
Anyone?
 
Please, I need someone to help me with it.
 
domyy said:
Player A = 125kg divided by 4m/s = 31.25 kg. m/s
Player B = 100kg divided by 5m/s = 20 kg. m/s

Remember, momentum formula is this: P=mv

pymn_nzr said:
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Your solution makes absolutely no sense. Also, we are forbidden to post complete solutions.

Try this diagram. The red line is the overall momentum after the collision, and θ is the angle you are looking for in part 2.
 

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Hi Tal444 !

So, the drawing you have is what I had imagined. That´s why I used the Pythagoras' theorem to calculate total momentum.

I am sorry, I keep writing p=m/v instead of p=mv.

Is the following accurate:

I am trying to calculate total momentum:

Pa = 125x4 =500kg.m/s
Pb = 100x5 = 500kg.m/s

Pt^2 = (500)^2 + (500)^2 = +/- 707

Does that make sense?
 
Yes, other than the fact that your momentum won't be negative in this case. Now, what's next?
 
Now I should calculate vf = p/m = 707/125+100 (total mass) = 3.14 m/s.
 
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It won't be negative because they are both going toward the same direction, right?
 
  • #11
Yes, your velocity is correct. And yes, it won't be negative because they are not opposing momentums. And now I need to go to sleep :zzz:. You're almost done, all you need to do is to find the angle now, and that should be a piece of cake for you.
 
  • #12
Thank you so much! :)
 
  • #13
i know you said it should be easy to answer the last question, but would 1 make any sense?
because if to find tan(a) = pa/pb then, the answer would be 500/500 = 1
 
  • #14
what do you mean?
 
  • #15
Yes, tan(a) does equal 1, but you're not looking for tan(a). You're looking for a. What does tan-1 give?
 
  • #16
Oh I am confused...
 
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i got it! 45
 

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