Calculating Net Gravitational Force on Mass A in a Square Configuration

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The problem involves calculating the net gravitational force on mass A in a square configuration, where each mass is 4 kg and the sides of the square are 10 cm. Participants are discussing their approaches to applying the gravitational force formula and addressing discrepancies in their results.

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  • Participants are attempting to use the gravitational force equation and the Pythagorean theorem to find distances between masses. There is discussion about the correct way to combine forces and the significance of using accurate values for constants and distances.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking significant figures and the method of combining forces. Others are exploring different interpretations of the problem and sharing their calculations, leading to a productive exchange of ideas.

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There are mentions of potential errors in calculations and the importance of using consistent significant figures. One participant notes a misunderstanding regarding the resultant force calculation, which has been clarified through discussion.

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Homework Statement



Each mass is 4kg find the magnitude and direction of the net gravtitational force on mass A due to the other masses. each side of the square is 10cm
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I am having trouble with (b) the square

Homework Equations



F = Gm1m2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



what I did was used the formula above to find AB, AC, and then used pythagorean theorem to find radius from A to D. then I used the above equation, and added the values together getting 2.17x10^-7 the correct solution is 2.04x10^-7 What did I do wrong?
 
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Is it possible that you used a different number of significant figures than the answer key?
The two values are very close.

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You shouldn't add the values at the end, you should find the resultant of AC with AB, and then add AD. Is this what you did?
 
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husky88 said:
Is it possible that you used a different number of significant figures than the answer key?
The two values are very close.

Edit:
You shouldn't add the values at the end, you should find the resultant of AC with AB, and then add AD. Is this what you did?

yes I did do it that way, and no I am pretty sure I used the same amount of significant figures as the book did.
 
Well I get the same answer as the key, 2.04*10^-7.
What are some intermediate values you got?
 
for AC and AB i did (6.674E-11)(4)(4)/.1^2 =1.068E-7

for AD i used (6.674E-11)(4)(4)/.5657^2 = 1.89E-9

I believe these are the correct values, now this is where I run into problems.
 
I used 6.67 for G, not 6.674. This will yield 2.04 E-7.
Also r for AD is 0.1414213562, not .5657. Hope you can figure out why.
 
husky88 said:
I used 6.67 for G, not 6.674. This will yield 2.04 E-7.
Also r for AD is 0.1414213562, not .5657. Hope you can figure out why.

yeah I have .1414 also, I got the .5657 from the problem I had written beneath it. I figured out what I was doing wrong. I was not taking the resultant of AC and AB like you earlier suggested. I tried it this way, and I got the correct result. Thank you for all of your help.
 
I've been trying to tackle a similar problem for longer than I would like to admit (again part b).

All sides are equal, all masses are equal, have to show that magnitude = (Gm^2/a^2)(sqrt(9/4+sqrt(2)))

the 9/4 looks like (3/2)^2, or (1+1/2); so I believe it is a creation of 60 degrees; which would make me think i need to tackle the sqrt(2) from a 30 degree standpoint.. but I don't see how I can generate sqrt(sqrt(2)) so that the first cancels out while developing magnitude.

I really didn't want to ask.. but kinda desperate to get this done.
 

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