Calculating Probability for Bingo Game: 4 Corners, Row, and 2 Rows

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probabilities associated with a Bingo game involving a 5x5 card. Participants are exploring the probabilities of achieving specific outcomes: getting the four corners, any single row, and any two rows from a total of 80 balls, with 45 drawn.

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  • One participant outlines the total combinations of drawing 45 balls from 80 and suggests a method for calculating the probability of getting all four corners of the card.
  • Another participant questions the initial calculation for the probability of getting any row, suggesting that the initial approach may inadvertently include probabilities for multiple rows being drawn together.
  • A further response proposes a formula to adjust for the overlap in probabilities when calculating for any row, indicating a need to account for the possibility of multiple rows being achieved simultaneously.

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Participants are engaged in a mathematical exploration with no consensus reached on the correct approach for calculating the probabilities, particularly regarding the adjustments needed for overlapping outcomes.

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Participants are working with combinatorial calculations and are considering the implications of overlapping probabilities in their formulas. There are unresolved aspects regarding the correct adjustments needed for the calculations.

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Hey all,
have a problem to solve for my new game game. really appreciate if someone can help me solve this issue:

* i need to calculate the probability for a given combination


1. Total number of balls in the box = 80
2. Total number of chosen balls 45
3. for simplicity we have only 1 card 5x5 (25 numbers in total)


question
what is the probability that i will get
a. 4 corners of the card?
b. any row ?
c. any 2 rows?

if someone can give me a start i will be happy
 
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Here's a start. I'm assuming you are holding the card and the 4 corners are known. There are C(80,45) possible combinations of 45 drawn from 80. There are C(76,41) combinations that contain your 4 corners so the probability of getting all 4 corners is C(76,41)/C(80,45). Any row is similar except that there are 5 of them, each containing 5 numbers. Give it a try.
 
alan2 said:
Here's a start. I'm assuming you are holding the card and the 4 corners are known. There are C(80,45) possible combinations of 45 drawn from 80. There are C(76,41) combinations that contain your 4 corners so the probability of getting all 4 corners is C(76,41)/C(80,45). Any row is similar except that there are 5 of them, each containing 5 numbers. Give it a try.


thank you very much. for the rows because i can get 5 different combination

(c(76,41)/c(80,45))*5

is that correct?

i assume not cause it includes the probability of getting 2 rows together or 3 rows or 4 rows, right?
 
is this the correct answer for 'any row'

(c(76,41)/c(80,45))*5 - ( (c(76,41)/c(80,45))^5 + (c(76,41)/c(80,45))^4 + (c(76,41)/c(80,45))^3 + (c(76,41)/c(80,45))^2 )

so change of getting a row multiply by 5 = this will give me the chance of geting 1st OR 2nd OR 3th OR 4th OR 5th

but will also give me AND 5,4,3,2 rows together - there for i deduct those
 

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