Calculating QP, QR, and the Angle PQR

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The problem involves calculating vectors QP and QR from given position vectors of points P, Q, and R, and determining the angle PQR. The context is vector mathematics, specifically focusing on vector operations and properties.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of vectors QP and QR, questioning the correctness of their results, particularly regarding the cosine value derived from the dot product. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the cosine value and the angle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and expressing confusion about specific values. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the cosine value, but there is no explicit consensus on the final angle.

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1. Three points P, Q and R have position vectors p, q and r respectively, where:
p=8i+11j, q=7i-5j and r=2i+4j.
Write down the vectors QP and QR and show that they are not perpendicular. Hence determine the angle PQR.




2. |QP|.|QR|cos(theta)




3. QP= QO+OP=i+16j
QR=QO+OR=-5i+9j
|QP|=root257
|QR|=root106

If the vectors are not perpendicular then a.b=0
a.b= QP=i+16j x QR=-5i+9j = (1)(-5)+(16)(9)=-5+144=139 - not perpendicular

a.b=|QP|.|QR|cos(theta)
cos(theta)=a.b/|QP|.|QR|=139/root257 x root106 = 32.6


Could anybody check to see how pathetic this attempt is, please?
 
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Hi lemon! :smile:

Yes, that looks fine, except for the very last bit (the 32.6). :wink:
 
errr. can't see it
thats the same figure i keep getting out.

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lemon said:
cos(theta)=a.b/|QP|.|QR|=139/root257 x root106 = 32.6

i don't know how you get that :redface:

139/√257√106 is approximately 139/16*10 < 1 :confused:
 
yeah but that is cos(theta), right?
so to find theta i need to inverse cos - 32.6
 
lemon said:
yeah but that is cos(theta), right?
so to find theta i need to inverse cos - 32.6

But it isn't 32.6! :cry:
 
it is on my calculator. I get 0.8421613497
inverse cos = 32.63093847
 
errr. can't see it
thats the same figure i keep getting out.

?
 
lemon said:
it is on my calculator. I get 0.8421613497
inverse cos = 32.63093847

ohhh! you wrote cos(theta) = 32.6 …
lemon said:
cos(theta)=a.b/|QP|.|QR|=139/root257 x root106 = 32.6

yes, theta = 32.6º is fine. :smile:
 
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