Calculating Spring Compression for Stone Sliding Down Hill

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A 15.0 kg stone slides down a hill, reaching a speed of 12.0 m/s at point A, and encounters friction on the horizontal ground before compressing a spring with a force constant of 2.30 N/m. The kinetic energy calculated at point B was initially found to be 4036.8 J, but rounding errors affected the results. After correcting the setup and ensuring proper significant figures, the correct compression of the spring was determined to be 20.4 m. The discussion highlighted the importance of careful calculations and checking signs in equations. The final answer resolved the initial confusion regarding the spring compression distance.
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Homework Statement



A 15.0kg stone slides down a snow-covered hill, leaving point A with a speed of 12.0m/s . There is no friction on the hill between points A and B, but there is friction on the level ground at the bottom of the hill, between B and the wall. After entering the rough horizontal region, the stone travels 100 m and then runs into a very long, light spring with force constant 2.30N/m . The coefficients of kinetic and static friction between the stone and the horizontal ground are 0.20 and 0.80, respectively.

How far will the stone compress the spring?


Other relevant information:

Height of A = 20m
Distance between A and B (horizontal): 15m

Homework Equations



f=ma
Ke=.5mv^2
.5kx^2
Fr=umg

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the velocity at point b = 23.2 m/s or a KE of 4036.8 J. I then subtracted work done by friction and set it all equal to the spring compression equation:

.5*15*23.2^2-umg(100+x)=.5(2.3)x^2
4036.8-2943+29.43x-1.15x^2
Quad eq: x=46.2m

However, this is off by quite a distance. Any help on this? Thanks in advance!
 
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s.dyseman said:

Homework Statement



A 15.0kg stone slides down a snow-covered hill, leaving point A with a speed of 12.0m/s . There is no friction on the hill between points A and B, but there is friction on the level ground at the bottom of the hill, between B and the wall. After entering the rough horizontal region, the stone travels 100 m and then runs into a very long, light spring with force constant 2.30N/m . The coefficients of kinetic and static friction between the stone and the horizontal ground are 0.20 and 0.80, respectively.

How far will the stone compress the spring?


Other relevant information:

Height of A = 20m
Distance between A and B (horizontal): 15m

Homework Equations



f=ma
Ke=.5mv^2
.5kx^2
Fr=umg

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the velocity at point b = 23.2 m/s or a KE of 4036.8 J. I then subtracted work done by friction and set it all equal to the spring compression equation:

.5*15*23.2^2-umg(100+x)=.5(2.3)x^2
That's generally the right approach. So you're doing well. :approve: But you do have a problem with rounding errors or something. The 4036.8 J figure is a little off. Make sure to keep plenty of significant figures in the intermediate steps (and/or keep everything in variable form until the final step).

4036.8-2943+29.43x-1.15x^2
Quad eq: x=46.2m
After fixing the rounding errors, check your setup prior to the quadratic formula. See the text in red above. Are you sure that's the right sign?
 
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Thank you very much, I found the answer at 20.4 m! You were a big help. The incorrect sign was a glaring error, how did I miss that?
 
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