Calculating Spring Height: Block Released from Compressed Spring

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The problem involves a block placed on a compressed spring, which is released to determine the height the block reaches after leaving the spring. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically energy conservation and spring dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential energy stored in the spring and its conversion to gravitational potential energy as the block ascends. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law and kinematic equations to analyze the motion of the block.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to relate the energy of the spring to the height reached by the block. Some have suggested using the equation for gravitational potential energy, while others are questioning the calculations and assumptions regarding forces and energy at different points in the motion.

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There is some confusion regarding the application of energy conservation principles and the interpretation of the results, particularly in relation to the expected orders of magnitude for the height calculated.

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Homework Statement




A 0.300 kg block is placed on a light vertical spring (k = 5.20 103 N/m) and pushed downward, compressing the spring 0.100 m. After the block is released, it leaves the spring and continues to travel upward. What height above the point of release will the block reach if air resistance is negligible?

Homework Equations



PEspring=1/2kx^2
Fspring=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution



PEspring=1/2(5.20 x 10^3 N/m)(0.100 m)
PEspring=260 Joules

Fspring=-(5.20 x 10^3 N/m)(0.100 m)
Fspring= -520 N

I'm not really sure where to go from here. I feel like I should take the force of the spring and the mass of the object and put it in F=ma to figure out the acceleration and then perhaps put it in a kinematic equation to solve for (y-yo) but I'm not sure if this would be correct. Could anyone tell me if I'm on the right track?
 
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If I solve for a in F=ma, I get:

-520 N = (5.20x10^3 kg)a
a= -0.100

I don't think this is right because I'd expect an object sitting on a spring to accelerate positively, until the end when it would become negative and begin slowing down?
 
what is its energy when it reaches the top?

[don't bring forces in this question]
 
I would assume the energy at the top would be 260 J since that was the potential energy of the spring and the box had no potential energy since it was sitting at rest?
 
So now, would I just plug 260 J into:

mgh to figure out h or is it more complicated than that?
 
I know that PEo+KEo=PE+KE also.

I would assume I'd need two equations since since the KEo of the spring is 260 Joules and the KEo of the box is 0?
 
Wait, I meant PE and I guess the spring has a PEo=260 J and the box has a PEo=0 since it is at rest.
 
yea mgh = 260

and you get the equation above the point from where the mass started acceleration (generally/mostly then answer)

you are analyzing the situation when KE is 0.
 
Ok so I did this:

260 J =(5.20 x 10^3 kg)(9.80 m/s/s)h
and solving for h I got:

h=0.005 m

However, when I put this answer into webassign.net it tells me I'm incorrect because of "orders of magnitude". Did I do something wrong?
 
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Still working on figuring this problem out.

So far, I figured out the Potential Energy of the spring and it is 260 Joules.

Now, I used this equation:

PEo+KEo=PE+KE (with KEo=0 because the box isn't in motion)
So:
PEo=PE+KE
260 J = mgH+1/2mv^2
260 J = (0.300 kg)(9.80 m/s^2)H+1/2(0.300 kg)v^2

How do I figure out what v^2 is?

Do I figure out the force of the spring and then divide to find the acceleration...but then plug it into a kinematic equation such as V^2=Vo^2=2g(Y-Yo)?
 
  • #11
V^2=Vo^2-2g(Y-Yo), sorry.
 

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