Calculating the Derivative of an Exponential Function with Logarithms?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the derivative of the function \( f(x) = 3^{2x+5} + \log_3(x^2+4) \). Participants explore different methods for differentiating the logarithmic component, specifically focusing on the use of logarithmic identities and the change of base formula.

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  • One participant seeks help with differentiating \( \log_3(x^2+4) \).
  • Another participant derives the derivative using the relationship \( y = \log_3(x^2+4) \) and applies implicit differentiation, arriving at \( y' = \frac{2x}{\ln(3)(x^2+4)} \).
  • A third participant expresses enthusiasm about the mathematical discussion.
  • A different participant presents the change of base formula for logarithms, confirming the derivative as \( y' = \frac{2x}{\ln(3)(x^2+4)} \) again.
  • Another contribution mentions the derivative of logarithmic functions and exponential functions, reiterating the relationship derived from the change of base formula.
  • A final participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received in the discussion.

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Participants generally agree on the application of the change of base formula and the resulting derivative of \( \log_3(x^2+4) \). However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach to differentiating the entire function \( f(x) \), as the focus remains primarily on the logarithmic part.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions in the differentiation process, nor does it explore the implications of the results in a broader context.

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Find $f'(x)$
$\displaystyle
f(x)={3}^{2x+5}+\log_3(x^2+4)$

Didn't know how to do the $\log_3(x^2+4)$
 
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$$y=\log_3(x^2+4)$$

$$3^y=x^2+4$$

$$y\ln(3)=\ln(x^2+4)$$

$$y'\ln(3)=\frac{2x}{x^2+4}$$

$$y'=\frac{2x}{\ln(3)\left(x^2+4\right)}$$
 
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The change of base formula for logs* may also be used:

$$\begin{align*}y&=\log_3(x^2+4) \\
&=\frac{\ln(x^2+4)}{\ln(3)} \\
y'&=\frac{2x}{\ln(3)(x^2+4)}\end{align*}$$

*Proof of the change of base formula:

$$\begin{align*}y&=\log_a(b) \\
a^y&=b \\
y\log_c(a)&=\log_c(b) \\
&y=\frac{\log_c(b)}{\log_c(a)}\end{align*}$$
 
Or just use the fact that \frac{d(log_a(x))}{dx}= \frac{1}{log_e(a)}\frac{1}{x}.

That follows from the "change of base" formula greg1313 gave: \frac{d(log_a(x))}{dx}= \frac{d\left(\frac{log_e(x)}{log_e(a)}\right)}{dx}= \frac{1}{log_e(a)}\frac{dlog_e(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{log_e(a)}\frac{1}{x}.

Generally, \frac{da^x}{dx}= ln(a) a^x and \frac{dlog_a(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{ln(a)}\frac{1}{x}.
 
Thanks everyone. Major help☕
 

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