Calculating the height of a geostationary satellite of Earth

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the height of a geostationary satellite above Earth. Participants are examining the gravitational force, mass, and radius of Earth, as well as the orbital period of the satellite.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the gravitational force equation to find the radius and height of the satellite but questions the validity of their calculations after receiving feedback. Some participants point out potential misunderstandings regarding the use of velocity and the relationship between radius and orbital period.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about the calculations and the relationship between velocity and radius for geostationary satellites. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the definitions and units involved in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of velocity in the context of orbital mechanics, particularly regarding the relationship between the radius of orbit and the orbital period of the satellite.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the height of a geo-stationary satellite of earth.

Gravitational force of earth=6.667 x 10^-11 nm^2/kgm^2
Mass of earth=6x10^24 kgm
Radius of earth=6400 km
V=86400

Homework Equations


GM/r=v^2
r=R+h

The Attempt at a Solution


I plugged everything into the equation and got 53,583.6 for r. Then since I need only height of the satellite to earth, I subtracted 6400 km from 53,583.6 and I got 47,183 for h. However, my professor said the answer for r should be around 36,000 km. Here is what I did.

(6.667x10^-11)(6x10^24)/r=86400^2

From multiplying, I got 4x10^14/r=7464960000

From this, I got r=53,583.6
Then h=47,183.

Are my calculations incorrect?
 
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Looks to me like you calculated the number of seconds in a day and set that as a velocity in m/s. Have I misunderstood your working?
 
haruspex said:
Looks to me like you calculated the number of seconds in a day and set that as a velocity in m/s. Have I misunderstood your working?
I just realized that as well. I can't believe I've been staring at this problem for half an hour without seeing this. Thanks
 
kokodile said:
I just realized that as well. I can't believe I've been staring at this problem for half an hour without seeing this. Thanks
That's why it's important to carry the units through your calculations. If you don't know what the numbers represent, how can anyone else know?
 
Thansk everyone
 
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haruspex said:
Looks to me like you calculated the number of seconds in a day and set that as a velocity in m/s. Have I misunderstood your working?

I still can't figure this problem out. If I need to find the velocity to calculate r, how can I do that when I need r to calculate velocity?
 
kokodile said:
I still can't figure this problem out. If I need to find the velocity to calculate r, how can I do that when I need r to calculate velocity?
How are the radius and velocity related for a geostationary satellite?
 
haruspex said:
How are the radius and velocity related for a geostationary satellite?

Well the larger the radius, the smaller the velocity of the satellite will be.
 
kokodile said:
Well the larger the radius, the smaller the velocity of the satellite will be.
And yet remain geostationary?
 
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haruspex said:
And yet remain geostationary?
Yes. So it has the same velocity as Earth. But I'm still confused as to how to find the velocity of earth. Even if I use the equation 2pir/T, I get .465 m/s. And when I plug that into the equation GM/r=v^2, I get a very large number that must be incorect.
 
  • #11
kokodile said:
So it has the same velocity as Earth.
No, not the same velocity. What must be the same?
 
  • #12
haruspex said:
No, not the same velocity. What must be the same?
The time it takes for one orbit?
 
  • #13
kokodile said:
The time it takes for one orbit?
Well, not quite right. The time for one orbit of the satellite must equal what?
From that, write an equation relating radius of orbit to velocity.
 

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