Calculating Trajectory & Time of Flight

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The discussion revolves around calculating the trajectory and time of flight of a projectile, specifically a golf ball, in the context of a hill's slope. Participants are exploring the application of trajectory equations and the effects of angles and distances in a college-level physics problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are considering various trajectory equations and questioning which ones are applicable to the problem. There is discussion about finding the distance the ball travels and how to relate that to the hill's height and slope. Some participants express confusion regarding the level of difficulty and the lack of examples provided by the instructor.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between horizontal and vertical velocities in projectile motion. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some attempting to derive equations for the ball's trajectory and its intersection with the hill's slope. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is a collaborative effort to assist one another.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is derived from an old test and may not align with typical introductory physics problems. There is mention of imposed homework constraints and the urgency of preparing for an upcoming test.

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Homework Equations


Trajectory equation and total time of flight



The Attempt at a Solution


Okay what would be the best way to approach this? should i find out the distance the ball goes? then subtract 35m to to get my length of hill and use that for cos30=x/h
 

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Please anyone I've been at this for hours
 
Which trajectory equations do you think apply? Note: I see from your prior posts that the problems you are submitting are of a somewhat higher level of difficulty than introductory level basic problems. What level of physics are you taking?
 
Just a normal college physics class "Mechanics-Solids/Fluids" at a junior college. My teacher does not give any examples or anything. This is his old test questions so I am trying to figure them out because they are not like normal two dimension or trajectory problems! Are you not watching the game!? i have to study for physics my test is on wednesday! Okay now back on topic

I know the basic trajectory equations

Y=Yo + Xtan(THETAo)- (gx^2/(2Vo^2Cos^2THETAo)

I think i want to see where the golf ball is at the base of the hill an then add the rising mountain to the downward acceleration
 
I would be watching the game, but I'm trying to assist you! But in the meantime , I have to run some errands, so rather than leave you hanging, I'll see if someone else can assist. Hang in there.
 
thanks! i really appreciate it! I'm going premed but UCLA wants me to have physics under by belt which doesn't really make sense unless i want to find out how far a kid fell of his bike to break his arm...haha
 
XwakeriderX said:

Homework Statement



See picture

Homework Equations


Trajectory equation and total time of flight



The Attempt at a Solution


Okay what would be the best way to approach this? should i find out the distance the ball goes? then subtract 35m to to get my length of hill and use that for cos30=x/h

What game?

One key hint on trajectory questions like this is to see that the horizontal velocity remains constant when there is no air resistance. The vertical velocity does vary, according to the constant acceleration kinematic equations. So the ball follows a parabolic arc. You need to find the equation for that arc, and equate it with the equation of the line for the hill's slope. Where the two lines meet, that's where the ball hits.

See "Kinematics of constant acceleration" on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinematics

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red sox!

Okay that makes some sense to me, ill try finding the equation to the arc
 
Range = [sin(2theta)V(initial)^2]/ acceleration ?
 
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Set up your coordinates so the point (x,y)=(0,0) is at the base of the hill. The hill is then given by the line y=mx for some value of m, which you can figure out. Tell us what the equations for x(t) and y(t) of the ball should be.
 
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d = 35.0 m,
angle A = 45.0 degrees,
angle B = 30.0 degrees,
initial velocity v = 145*0.447 m/s
find h

horizontal displacement x = d + h/tan(B) = vcos(A)*t (1)
vertical displacement y = h = vsin(A)*t - gt^2/2 (2)
from (2),
gt^2/2 - vsin(A)*t + h = 0
solve it and get
t = {vsin(A) + sqrt[v^2*sin(A)^2 - 2gh]}/g
put it into (1), get
d + h/tan(B) = vcos(A)*{vsin(A) + sqrt[v^2*sin(A)^2 - 2gh]}/g
gd + gh/tan(B) = v^2*cos(A)*sin(A) + v*cos(A)*sqrt[v^2*sin(A)^2 - 2gh]}
insert known values, simplify and get
sqrt(2100 - 19.6h) = 0.37037h - 38.337
squared both sides and simplify,
0.13717h^2 - 8.79h - 630.3 = 0
solve it and get
h = 107 m

:)
 

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