Calculating water flow over a solar panel

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating water flow for cooling solar panels using a water film. Participants explore the necessary data and considerations for effective cooling, including heat dissipation and potential system designs.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the calculation of water flow over solar panels, referencing the heat transfer equation q = m.c.deltaP.
  • Another participant suggests that the question needs further elaboration, questioning the simplicity of finding the volume of water poured over the panel.
  • Clarification is provided that the water will flow over the solar panel, enter a tank, and be recirculated by a pump.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of knowing the amount of heat absorbed by the solar panel that needs to be dissipated.
  • Concerns are raised about the water heating up without a method for heat dissipation, prompting questions about suitable materials for heat dissipation, such as aluminum tanks.
  • One participant discusses the cost-benefit analysis of cooling efficiency versus the energy required to move large volumes of water.
  • Alternative uses for the recovered cooling water are proposed, such as preheating domestic water.
  • Participants question the effectiveness of flowing water over the solar panel, considering the impact on sunlight reaching the cells and potential efficiency losses due to deposits left by the water.
  • Suggestions are made for alternative cooling methods, such as using a heat sink on the back of the panel or employing a fine spray mist for cooling.
  • Concerns about evaporation rates and the implications of flow rate on cooling efficiency are discussed, along with the potential need for a wash-down method to prevent deposits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the best approach to cooling solar panels, with no consensus on the optimal method or system design. There is agreement on the need for heat dissipation but disagreement on how to achieve it effectively.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for specific data on heat absorption and the assumptions regarding the efficiency of different cooling methods. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the characteristics of the water used and the design of the cooling system.

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Hi all, firstly I'm sorry because don't know which thread category should I ask from, but here goes:

I'm doing my final year project about cooling solar panel with water film.basically it's flowing water over the panels. how can I calculate the water flow? does this have got to do with the q= m.c.deltaP? c being the specific water heat capacity?
 
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I think you need to elaborate the question. Is the answer as simple as finding the volume of water you have poured over the panel? re-word your question :)
 
Bradenbraden said:
I think you need to elaborate the question. Is the answer as simple as finding the volume of water you have poured over the panel? re-word your question :)

oh sorry :) ok the solar panel will use water for cooling it, by flowing water on to the surface of the solar panel. This water, i.e the water that just flowed over the panels, will then enter a tank, and will be circulated back by a pump to flow again on the solar panel.

so what data should i need to know in order to get that water flowrate?
 
You need to know the amount of heat being absorbed by the solar panel that you want to dissipate.

Also, I don't see anything in your description about removing the heat from the water - so the water is just going to keep getting warmer and warmer.
 
russ_watters said:
You need to know the amount of heat being absorbed by the solar panel that you want to dissipate.

Also, I don't see anything in your description about removing the heat from the water - so the water is just going to keep getting warmer and warmer.

ah!you're right.thank you for pointing it! i missed that.what should i do to dissipate the heat from the water? would using a aluminium tank sufficient enough to do that?
 
syiafuku said:
ah!you're right.thank you for pointing it! i missed that.what should i do to dissipate the heat from the water? would using a aluminium tank sufficient enough to do that?

Try to write out the steps, or make yourself a drawing of the entire system. Mark the places where heat goes in and where it goes out. Then figure out the magnitudes of these, and only then can you start to picture the components themselves. In other words, work from the top down - you can't decide the tank material (eg aluminum) until you know how big it is, and how much/how fast heat must be removed.
 
I assume you are trying to cool a photovoltaic panel to make it more efficient. If this is the case, there is a break point at which the cost of moving the water will exceed the benefit of cooling the panel. As an extreme example, 1000 gpm poured over a single panel will certainly cool the panel, but will require a high HP pump, large piping, a large tank to catch the water, but the TD of the entering to leaving water will be low. The cost of a system moving 1000 gpm over a single panel would not be recoverable by efficiency gain of the solar panel in a reasonable amount of time.

A better use of the recovered cooling water would be to heat another process, such as preheat domestic water before it goes to a water heater. Then calculate how many gallons per day could be preheated from say 50 deg F to 80 deg F. Then figure out how many gpm that requires and the temperature difference, account for evaporation, it will have to have a heat exchanger so there will be efficiency losses in that.
 
Also, I don't think you want to flow the water "over" the solar panel. Why would you not want the sunlight to have to go through the water to get to the cells? How else could you route the water? Are there maybe other means of cooling the panels? Where are they mounted? What is the optimum operating temperature of the panels, and how does the efficiency vary about that temperature?
 
I would also think that running water in a "non sealed" system over the front would lead to deposits being left on the solar panel, slowly decreasing its efficiency, too

I wound think more on the lines of a heat sink on the back to draw the heat away

dr
 
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dr dodge said:
I would also think that running water in a "non sealed" system over the front would lead to deposits being left on the solar panel, slowly decreasing its efficiency, too
Absolutely. If the surface air temperature close to the panels is high, the relative humidity near the panels will be low and evaporation will be fairly high as well, I would think. This is also a factor of the flow rate, if the flow rate is high enough, the panels will be cool enough to reduce evaporation rate, again it is a trade off, it won't be as efficient. Probably the most effective method, at first, would be a fine spray mist allowed to evaporate on the surface. This could bring the panels down to wet bulb temps, but it will leave deposits over time, depending on the hardness of the water used. Some sort of wash down method should be employed.

If rainwater could be collected that is fairly soft and would leave fewer deposits.
 

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