Can a 17-Year-Old Pioneer Cold Fusion Breakthroughs?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for breakthroughs in cold fusion, particularly from the perspective of a 17-year-old student interested in pursuing this field. Participants explore the history, challenges, and theoretical aspects of cold fusion, including the role of quantum tunneling.

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Main Points Raised

  • A 17-year-old student expresses enthusiasm for cold fusion and seeks guidance on how to engage with the field.
  • Some participants suggest starting with foundational knowledge, such as reading articles on nuclear fusion and the history of cold fusion experiments.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of cold fusion research, particularly referencing the Fleischmann and Pons experiment and its negative impact on the field.
  • One participant argues that the results of early cold fusion experiments were largely unreproducible, leading to a perception of the field as lacking scientific rigor.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding basic physics before engaging with advanced concepts like cold fusion.
  • Quantum tunneling is mentioned as a proposed mechanism for cold fusion, but doubts are expressed regarding its sustainability in current configurations.
  • A question is posed about the possibility of making quantum tunneling sustainable to achieve cold fusion, indicating a desire to explore theoretical advancements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding cold fusion. While some support the idea of pursuing research in the field, others highlight significant challenges and the need for a solid understanding of physics before making claims about cold fusion's feasibility.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the historical context of cold fusion research and the importance of learning from past mistakes. There are unresolved questions about the viability of quantum tunneling as a mechanism for achieving cold fusion.

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Most of us have heard about it. Some of us know a little about it. Little understand it.

I am a 17 year old student, competant in the science and maths, (not to toot my own horn, but it is my best area)

Is there a physician (no? physicist (damn that word doesn't look right, oh well, you guys get what I mean)) that can please enlighten me [us] on the subject?

As I believe anything is possible, I think the theory and practice of cold fusion is possible, and can seriously do a lot of things for humanity.

Furthermore, I really want to be apart of the movement in uncovering this field of physics. (If fate allows I want to lead the movement of this field, lolz,, yup yup You can call me a 'dreamer'), as I am going into tertiary study next year, I want to know if there is any courses I should be looking into? Any things I should be researching? Any help at all! :P

I believe anything is possible if one starts at a young enough age :D. Look out world here I come (okay now I just sound crazy, lolz.)

Peace!
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Good to have dreams, even better to base them on solid physics. While that's not the most reliable source, you may start reading wikipedia articles - start with the nuclear fusion, it contains links to other articles of interest, including famous cold fusion experiment by Fleischmann and Pons. Note that it is rather negative fame.
 
Thank you for the reply! :D, lots of help hehe.

Yeah I mean I have read some things on these pages, but I thought I might soon start reading actual published journels and things. hehe. We'll see ! :D

Nice Green Radiant hair by the way. Lolz.
 
Hm, cold fusion. I don't want to depress you, but the Fleischmann and Pons fiasco basically killed the field. There are very few credible academics seriously pursuing it, and the ones who do (e.g., Peter Hagelstein at MIT) are very much the dark horses.
 
Lol, well I think i will write these Peter Hagelstein at MIT a letter! :P hehe.

What do you mean by killed it? Like, they exhausted every possible path to acheiving cold fusion? With no plausible results? :( Dead ends?

There must be other ways?
 
xoxowithlove said:
What do you mean by killed it? Like, they exhausted every possible path to acheiving cold fusion? With no plausible results? :( Dead ends?

Read the cold fusion article on wikipedia. Basically their results were unreproducible. Perhaps they didn't intentionally forged the results, but the net effect was that cold fusion became crackpottery.
 
xoxowithlove said:
Lol, well I think i will write these Peter Hagelstein at MIT a letter! :P hehe.

What do you mean by killed it? Like, they exhausted every possible path to acheiving cold fusion? With no plausible results? :( Dead ends?

There must be other ways?

Imagination without knowledge is ignorance waiting to happen.

If you do not learn about the history of such a thing, you are bound to repeat the mistakes.

If you do not understand the physics involved, you are going to make a bunch of nonsensical statements (and I think you already have).

Just simply saying it is "possible" doesn't make it happen. It is POSSIBLE for you to spontaneously disappear into thin air. There's nothing in physics that says it can't happen. But should you base an entire physics and technology on something that either isn't likely to occur, or would take a time scale of the age of the universe to occur?

This forum is filled with professionals in many areas, including physics. It is a valuable place to be if you want to learn. But learning means starting from the basics and learning how to crawl before you walk and before you run. This is why we have the PF Guidelines stated the way it is. You can't come up with ideas about "cold fusion" and what was wrong with it without understanding the physics involved with fusion. And to be able to do that, you have to understand basic physics first.

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Quantum-tunneling, which is the proposed mechanism behind the so-called cold-fusion effect is, in itself, not a problem.

Rather, the problem exits that this effect is not self-sustainable under that configuration.
 
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Is this true? I know I'm skipping years and years of research and hard work and complicities, but if Quatum tunneling is made 'sustainable' we can use it to achieve cold fusion? Or be one step closer to acheiving it?
 

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