Can a 1kg Black Hole Be Manipulated and Moved?

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The discussion centers around the theoretical manipulation and movement of a 1 kg black hole, exploring its properties, evaporation, and potential methods for movement. Participants engage in speculative reasoning about the implications of creating such a black hole on Earth and the challenges associated with its manipulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a 1 kg black hole could theoretically be created, but it would evaporate almost instantaneously, complicating any attempts to manipulate it.
  • One participant estimates the evaporation time of a 1 kg black hole to be approximately 1.44e-17 seconds, indicating it would radiate energy at a significant rate, necessitating the consumption of matter to counterbalance this loss.
  • There is a proposal that moving a black hole could be achieved by throwing mass at it, as momentum conservation would allow for such manipulation, although this is contingent on the black hole not evaporating.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that a black hole could be "pulled" by a more massive body, with the example of a 1 kg black hole falling through the Earth while a lead slug would not.
  • Participants discuss the size of a 1 kg black hole, noting it would be microscopic, potentially smaller than an electron, and highlight the extreme conditions required to form such a black hole.
  • Speculation arises about primordial black holes potentially existing from the early universe, with suggestions for methods to search for them, such as examining the orbits of asteroids.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of manipulating a 1 kg black hole, with various competing views on its properties, evaporation, and potential methods for movement remaining unresolved.

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Limitations include the speculative nature of black hole manipulation, the dependence on theoretical assumptions about black hole evaporation, and the lack of empirical evidence for the existence of primordial black holes.

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And if so what would happen if it would be created on Earth is there any way to push it out of the orbit could you actually manipulate such a small black hole?
 
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A black hole can be of any size but a 1kg black hole will evaporate long before you can move it. Unless it fell through the floor and ate enough of the world per second to over come its evaporation.

As for moving a black hole there's I'm not sure if perhaps just chucking mass at it will result in it moving. Not my field though
 
ryan_m_b said:
A black hole can be of any size but a 1kg black hole will evaporate long before you can move it. Unless it fell through the floor and ate enough of the world per second to over come its evaporation.

That probably wouldn't even be enough. The estimated exaporation time of a 1 kg BH is 1.44e-17 sec. It would radiating energy away at a rate of 3.6e32 joules/sec, and thus would have to eat matter at a rate of ~4e15 kg/sec just to keep up with the loss.
 
It would indeed evaporate VERY quickly. Moving a black hole can indeed be done by throwing mass on it from a certain direction, as the total momentum of the system needs to be conserved. For a 1 kg black hole this si still easy (if it wouldn't evaporate), more massive ones are going to need excessive amounts of mass...
 
A one kilogram black hole can exist. But it will be microscopic, perhaps even smaller than an electron! Anything can be made into a black hole there is enough mass in an extremely small amount of space. In other words, any squeezed down enough would turn into a black hole. The planet Earth weighs much, much more than one kilogram. Earth would turn into a black hole if it was squeezed down into the size of a marble. So just imagine how much you would have to squeeze down a one kilogram mass to turn it into a black hole? That's why I said it's microscopic.
 
harcel said:
... Moving a black hole can indeed be done by throwing mass on it from a certain direction, as the total momentum of the system needs to be conserved. For a 1 kg black hole this si still easy (if it wouldn't evaporate), more massive ones are going to need excessive amounts of mass...

If you don't want to increase the mass of the black hole you can "pull" it with another massive body. For example a 1kg black hole at the surface of the Earth will fall at the same 9.8m/s/s rate as will a slug of lead.

Of course where the slug of lead will hit the ground with a thud, the sub-microscopic BH will pass right through the Earth and "orbit" through the ground.

Such a small BH cannot be formed naturally by any stellar process of which we are aware, however speculations have been made that so called Primordial black holes might have formed soon after the BB. One might look for some of theses by moving asteroids around and seeing if there's any mass left in their previous orbit... (also one would look for the Hawking Radiation they would emit.)
 

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