Can a Hybrid Skimming Boat Revolutionize Lake Travel?

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The discussion centers around the concept of a hybrid skimming boat designed to travel across lakes by skimming the surface, potentially utilizing a rotating outer part and a stationary inner part for passengers. Participants explore the feasibility, mechanics, and design considerations of such a vessel, touching on related technologies like hydrofoils and ground-effect vehicles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes building a boat that skims across the surface with minimal engine thrust, suggesting a design with a rotating outer part.
  • Another participant references hydrofoils as a related technology, indicating that drag reduction is crucial for maintaining speed.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges of achieving stability and the mechanics of rotation in the proposed design.
  • Discussion includes the concept of wing-in-ground-effect (WIGE) vehicles, with a participant mentioning the Caspian Sea Monster as an example.
  • Some participants note that common ocean racers utilize similar principles, where boats can achieve higher speeds in waves compared to flat water.
  • There is mention of the need for careful throttle management to prevent engine damage when the hull leaves the water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of ideas and uncertainties regarding the feasibility and design of the hybrid skimming boat. There is no consensus on the specific mechanics or effectiveness of the proposed concepts, and multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about drag coefficients, stability, and the mechanics of rotation, but these aspects remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Could I build a boat that skims across the surface of a lake like a stone and only needs an injection of thrust from an engine now and again to keep it going? Perhaps such a boat would have a rotating outer part and a stationary inner part for passengers.
 
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If it would have to spin like the stone, that would be a bit of a tough nut to crack. I can't say I have seen it done, but there's nothing saying it can't. I think there would be a lot of trial and error.
 
Well basically if your boat s stable in still state. then a slight motor thrust from te rear should do the trick
 
Newton's first law... if you get the drag down near zero, you won't need much thrust. But even with a hydrofoil or related concept (how 'bout a ground-effect aircraft?), your drag will still be significant.
 
There's also the ever-popular wing-in-ground-effect (WIGE) vehicle. It's half-way between a hydroplane and an aeroplane. Google the 'Caspian Sea Monster' for an extreme example. :biggrin:

edit: How'd you sneak in there like that, Russ?
 
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Well at any drag coefficient, the highest for boat is about 0.3, a motor can handle the job
 
Thr rotation of the outer part would need to be countered by the inner part turning slowly or some other way.
 
common ocean racers sort of do that
the boat flys between waves
thats why a throttle man is very important
to keep from over reving and blowing up the hi-powered motors
when the hull and props leaves the water
they are faster in waves then in flat water

both hydrofoil and air cussion craft don't skip
 

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